Fess Up - What rules have you broken - pushing the boundaries
Replies: 10 - Last Post: Mar 8, 2012 1:37 AM Last Post By: chuck_narris
Feb 19, 2012 3:07 AM
Fess Up - What rules have you broken - pushing the boundariesThis is in contrast to Touring Etiquette thread i started a few days ago.
Please share your experiences of breaking the rules a bit. I'm sure this could be interesting...
Feb 19, 2012 3:11 AM
11. Sometimes i camp in the creek beds and river beds just on the outskirts of towns rather than go and pay for a caravan park? This is illegal in Australia. But in the outback, if you are discreet no one will bother you.
The first time i did it, it was on the advice of the woman in the grocery shop who told me it would be ok to camp there. I chose to pitch my tent under the bridge to avoid being seen.
The last time i stealth camped (a few weeks ago) it was in a school under the main building but only because it was raining torrentially. A school teacher came upon me sleeping on a picnic table and tried to coax me into going home with her to sleep in her van. But i was so comfy i didn't want to move. She came back again with another friend. I am still not sure whether she was genuinely worried about me, or worried that there might be some other form of trouble. Not that she said much to the latter efect. They seemed more concerned about me. But i was happy on top of the table as the flood waters creeped up all around me.
Feb 19, 2012 6:41 AM
2On my short stay in California a lot of the campsites there did not accept tents but only caravans and whatnot to camp making stealth the only way available. The hiker/biker sites were great when available.
In a few dozen countries I have ridden on freeways despite signs forbidding it. In places like Mexico it is the only safe option in many cases. For parts of Chile it is the only option.
I left Venezuala without officially doing so. You need to pay to get an exit stamp or something and I unknowingly took the wrong border crossing.
Feb 19, 2012 1:40 PM
3Once, whilst in Thailand, I visited a temple wearing shorts. And yes it showed my cultural insensitivity and ignorance ( I thank Simon Hill for letting me know about that) but I asked the people at the collection booth and they said it was fine, and a great deal of the Thai people visiting the temple were also in shorts. But still I was in the wrong.
Whilst in East Java, I threw my trash all over the place. As a general rule I never litter, but over there it was just an accepted practice and I joined in. It was liberating.
Feb 20, 2012 2:48 AM
4when i went to costa rica i was determined to climb chirripo. figured i could just show up pay the fee and climb, unfortunitly when i got there they told me i would have to way till the next day to get the pass and then i would have to wait an other day to start the climb and finally i couldn't pitch my tent on the mountain and i had to stay at the lodge at the top. not impress i walked to the local bar and started talking with the locals where a couple of them told me about an old "Indian trail" that i could take where i could pitch my tent, and climb without a permit. i ended up making friends with a couple of other who were climbing the mountain with the pass so i decided not to cheat the system and do it with them.. so in the end i chickened out and didn't break the rules but i though i'd share the time that i "almost" broke he rules
Feb 20, 2012 7:17 AM
5Well, I travel on a very tight budget and also with a particular philosophy of freedom (I want to justify myself), but I do not pay official campsites, I do wild camp most of times, I try to sneak in Parks and I do not feel guilty at all about it. I do not like the idea of Nature only for those who can afford it. For instances, Icelands NP in Canada costs 10$ each day you stay there, plus 15-25$ each night if you camp in an official campsite. It took me 6 days to cross it, and I paid only the ticket for one day and slept hidden t in the forest or recreation areas. Absolutely, I do not feel guilty, either feelings of breaking rules.
But I am not a bad guy, I use long clothes in temples (not only buddhists), I do not take people pics without asking, introduce myself to the village's chief and I leave my shoes pointing the door in japanese houses.
Just a short story in Kyrgyzstan: I enter in the country through a remote valley in the west, Chatckal Valley, and for a week I did not see many fellows, therefore I did not get any info about state rules. So when I reached the tarmac and Talas city I was really longing for a beer. I found a place for sleeping and went to get some food and a beer. It was dark, public lights were working badly, and I started to have my dinner with my beer sit in a small square. Happily, in a nirvana feeling and what a wonderful world we have. I saw some fellows pointing at me and laughing a bit, but I did not worry, it happens all the time, specially in remote places. Then, a police man came to me and said very angry 'come with me to the police station'. Shit. Well, what happened is that I was drinking a beer in the steps of the police station in a state where public drinking is outlaw!! I did not know it....
Cheers from Mexico (where by the way you cannot drink in the streets either)
Feb 21, 2012 12:05 AM
6I concur with Salva. Lots of campsites in the West now have the tendency to charge per site. A solo biker will be charged the same as a RV with 2 people. This is just ridiculous and I don't feel guilty to freecamp a little ways away and walk through the front gate or jump over the fence soap in hand to enjoy their showers. In Venice I climbed over the fence with the bike fully loaded at 3 am to avoid paying their crazy rates (I concocted a story to get my passport back the night before). In Southern France they still have my ID card...
Mar 7, 2012 3:37 AM
7Yeah I never pay to camp... I have camped ın weırd places too. In a dıtch next to the maın hıghway between Johor Baru and KL ın Malaysıa. In a football stadıum ın Australıa. And ın many grave yards...
Is ıt breakıng a rule to shıt all over the place when you rıde? I normally put a few rocks over my excrement... I went to loads of Wats ın Thaıland - camped there and had breakfast wıth the monks. At that tıme I dıdnt own a paır of trousers... And the other I assaulted a small chıld. To be faır I just gave a hard shove to the chest whıch sent hım flyıng... He and hıs mates had thrown rocks at me then he grabbed my bıke...
I have also stolen fruıt from orchards throughout my travels... Includıng ın thırd world countrıes...
Also I ıllegally entered the Mt Bromo park on my bıcycle wıthout payıng (they have dıfferent rates for foreıgners - I dont deal wıth such foolıshness)...
The only real rule I follow ıs dont lıtter. I hate that shıt...
Mar 7, 2012 3:42 AM
8Oh yeah - and I ıllegally rode over the brıdge between maınland malaysıa and Georgetown - I belıeve that ıs one of the longest brıdges ın the world. I got stopped by the cops 500m short. They asked for a souvenır (brıbe) - I offered them a puncture repaır kıt... They eventually let me fınısh the rıde across...
Mar 7, 2012 5:30 AM
9Chuck i know it would be hard to resist shoving a kid but could i suggest that if you encounter aggressive kids again that you try a different sort of tactic cause what you've done will only cause them to do this to the next cyclist to come along as well. Instead get off your bike and go up to them and try to befriend them. let them have a ride on your bike even if they seem open to your gesture. This will help cyclists following you a lot.
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