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How refreshing to see this old thread revitalized. Thanks for the dose of snide. Hope it works for you.

But....is it just barely possible that the US military makes decisions which might be inappropriate for people not currently enlisted? Those guys also wear funny uniforms, are highly prone to saluting each other, and in lots of other respects behave differently from I or, perhaps, you. The military also uses drugs I find unappealing for various reasons--c.f., amphetamines and related substances--and doesn't (officially) use many which I do. Strange, isn't it?

It's just a thought. I'll be out here waiting for a glimpse of the new surgeon general.

mark

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Nah, I like your attitude. And I agree, and yo have stumbled, wittingly or unwittingly on the real debate. Now the dudes in black suits will be at my door....That's the thing Mark, is that most people are like you. It's the less mentally stable, maybe they are on psych pills, or maybe they toked the bammer weed (which I think is the culprit) that somehow ignites this thing. So agree with you. And yes I would not want to be an ethical dude running around an army medical testting clinic. I wish I could, but like nevin said, who knows? Retirement sounds alot better than say blowin the whistle on what you are talking about. And remember we aren't talking conspiracy this is actually some tarded experiment gone wrong. When i took it I knew it was heavy stuff. I think making this an acute malarial pill is a solid use. That's me. And that's in line with what you are saying. Not to poo poo it outright but to say yo, dudes been jumppin out of buildings on this stuff, maybe take it if you get malaria.

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However, if you are sensative to it, are on psych meds, are smoking things, I wouldn't take it. The common complaint is that Lariam toxicity is far worse than malaria in a healthy adult.

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Uh, whose "common complaint was that?" "Healthy adults" say that? Before or after they've had direct experience of acute malaria?

I've had more than my share of malaria, and more experience than most with taking mefloquine. I've also been around a great many people with acute malaria, and even more who were taking mefloquine. I almost died. I've seen people almost die. I'm not a researcher like your Heroic Doctor Guy, but I get around and I pay attention.

Some people clearly can't take mefloquine without serious side effects. A great many can, and I've seen plenty of both. But very few, if any, can maintain composure while plasmodium parasites are attacking their red blood cells by the gazillions (<--technical term).

Funny thing is, I stopped using mefloquine on most of my travels because it didn't work, i.e., I contracted malaria while taking it. Twice. That's a fairly compelling argument in my book. As for the rest: feh. I'm happy to read one or two layers deep in any relevant reference, but if it immediately smells like bullshit I'll leave it for someone else---you, Dr. Nevin, or the OP here.

best,

Mark

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Almost died from dengue.....way more tolerable than mefloquine. And that was a living hell, Don't get too hoity toity

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You don't get it bro, and dats ay ok

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Keep taking your lariam keep getting malaria. Works well for you. Probably good to listen to fools who never got it.

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Sounds like it's time to put this one back to sleep.

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IThis is a total waste of time.