mobile networks for france/spain
Replies: 11 - Last Post: Feb 6, 2012 8:57 AM Last Post By: Bjoern
Feb 2, 2012 4:14 PM
Feb 2, 2012 11:57 PM
Feb 3, 2012 12:17 AM
2There is not such a thing like "a european sim card " - SIM cards all over the world are national -unfortunately.
And not being a resident you HAVE to get a prepaid card. No one will sell you anything else. In lots of countries you even have to register (passport) to get a prepaid (Anti terrorist laws ).
And as mentioned above - do not waste time for trying to save 10%, just make sure that you KNOW how much data you need. (Try to minimize data use - like - maybe not possible at iphones - preload all maps you will need ).
Feb 3, 2012 12:19 AM
Feb 3, 2012 5:37 AM
Feb 3, 2012 6:12 AM
5France and Spain are both members of Schengen (LOOK UP if you do not know what it is).
If you are a non-EU citizen and a non-Schengen citizen you can only stay in the Schengen area (all countries combined) for 90 days out of any 180 days period.
If you overstay you will be an illegal immigrant (this is a serious crime in Europe) , your insurances (incl. health insurance) will be avoid and you MAY be fined and thrown out at anytime - typically when trying to leave.
Many will NOT be caught, Many are,. Most who are caught (who have not had insurance problems) will experience one or more of:
-Getting banned from entry into Schengen for some years (ugly stamp in passport that attracts interest and questions at every border - including at reentry at home) - and at least in my country you must tell employers that you have no possibility to travel to XX counties
-Getting a fine
-Being questioned so long that you miss your flight, and THEN asked to leave at next flight - even if they have only very costly - like 1st class - tickets left
So it is not possible for you to stay for 4½ months without say a residence permit, a study visa or something like that.
If you DO have such a visa, you MAY possibly become OR you MAY HAVE TO register as a resident of some degree - which again MAY open up possiblilities of obtaining services as a non-alien.
Feb 4, 2012 12:44 AM
Feb 4, 2012 11:35 PM
Feb 5, 2012 1:15 AM
8#7 couldn't you clarerf`?
1: Which country are you talking aboth?
2: Are you talking a SIM (which OP wants) or a phone (no probelm - no limitations on buying that.
3: Are you saying that you could get an NON-preapid plan on you hotels adress? So now your bills are mailed to the hotel? - or are you simply talking a pre paid, which is not a major problem in most countries as long as you identify yourself (passport)
Feb 6, 2012 5:55 AM
9Thanks for all of the info( although the visa stuff is really freaking me out now).
I am planning to bring my iphone 4s with me and buy a pay as you go sim card from Orange or some other company that operates in france in spain. If i did a prepaid it ould be possible because i could just billl it home i think but i just want to do the cheaper option and usually you have to commit to long periods for prepaid. Suggestions? And which company ( orange, O4, others?) is the most reliable/cheap?
Bjorn- thank you so much for that visa info! I had no idea about that so you definitely saved my ass... however i may even be to late as the visa process can take up to 1 months and i have plane tickets for feb 19th! What should i do if im unable to get a long stay visa in time?? Have you done this before?Is there a way to extend my visa IN france?
Feb 6, 2012 6:32 AM
10What should i do if im unable to get a long stay visa in time?
ShiRex, there is unfortunately no legal way to get around the 90/180 day restriction - unless you can get a long-stay visa for France or Spain before you arrive, you'll be limited to 90 days in the Schengen Area (= not only France and Spain, but a total of 25 countries in Europe) per 180-day period. If you want to spend 4,5 consecutive months in Europe and don't want to, or cannot, get a long-stay visa for one country, your only other option is to divide your time between Schengen and non-Schengen countries - i.e. 90 days in Spain and France, than 1,5 months in e.g. the UK, Morocco, Croatia or Turkey, to name a few non-Schengen countries.
Feb 6, 2012 8:57 AM
11I am pretty sure that you are right - it is probably difficult to get a visa in so short time, especillay as I am not aware is you have anything to justify that such a visa should be issued for you for one of the countries.
So you better spend time planning if you should spend 2 months outside Schengen or return earlier.
Not to kick YOU, but in general I really wonder why so many that we meet here on TT can start planning a trip without spending a few minutes to figure out if a visa is needed and especially when ppl. plan more than 3 month stays without caring for visa. There are very few if any countries where you can stay for more than 3 months - at least not without going through difficult procedures for gettin a resident status.
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