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Distant Tiny Villages in Laos- (the opposite of the USA)

Replies: 50 - Last Post: Jan 17, 2012 4:33 PM Last Post By: titima

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JakartaBoy

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Jan 13, 2012 7:20 PM
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Funspirit,

Take away message: I am full of Love and Good Intentions; You are hypersensitive politically correct (and not calm or rational). If that's what you need to believe to justify your selfish actions and mindset, go for it. But at least follow the links I gave above to educate yourself slightly.

There is a reason why most people here disagree with you. Try to be open to an explanation for that that is not predicated on the belief that you are more enlightened/aware/loving/kind/filled with light than everyone else. Set aside those assumptions and look at the issue with an open mind.

NormC

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Jan 14, 2012 9:48 PM
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Was the "me" that SWU talking about was, in actual fact, "himself", and not "you", bun_cha...or have I gotten this wrong?

bun_cha

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Jan 15, 2012 12:32 AM
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No, this is from his post:

"(1) my intentions are good, (2) I'm doing something, and (3) I'm not feeding off of anyone." (This from my earlier post)

Do note that the focus is on the "me" - not the young people and their incredibly challenging futures.

What I thought I was doing in that earlier post was offering an ethical way of going about helping and his response (as I read it) was to say that the focus of what I do is on me - which, in a sense is correct in that the person doing the actions is me. However, his implication was that what I do is focused on me rather than the problems of the people I've served. That's incorrect and offensive (to me, of course).

NormC

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Jan 15, 2012 2:53 PM
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ok...thanks.

Herbie47

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Jan 16, 2012 5:19 AM
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"i see nothing wrong with what OP did"

But you are the OP are you not, funspirit?

StillWithUs

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Jan 16, 2012 10:58 AM
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"How about it SWU - don't you want to follow-up on my response to your snarky, ill-founded remark""

Actually, I was out of town for three days visiting in-laws. Sorry that my silence wasn't about you and your snide arrogance. As this entire post reveals, most people are far more interested in helping themselves than others.
I love the comment above, almost unnoticed, that people who visit developing nation's orphanages probably never have a concern for orphans, or poverty, in their own community. That does say something about perceptions and intentions. Fill the soul for only two hours, then off to Starbucks to feel good about oneself (and to share those cute photos of the smiling children.

PS My comments aren't about any single individual. Exceptions of course exist, and saintly people (like bu_cha apparently) who dedicate their lives to those of need are wonderful. Thanks to all of them who dedicate their lives (save the time to belittle others on these postings).

funspirit

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Jan 16, 2012 1:33 PM
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Dude, anytime you make someone's life better, bring them positive energy and encouragement, even if only for two hours before going off to starbucks, you are still doing a service and making the world a better place. Even if one's intentions are purely selfish. Are the people that one helped better off now?
If someone helps an old lady across the street just to impress a girl, is the old lady still not better off than without the help?
You can complain all you want about the imperfections about the world, but what do you do to change it?
Keep complaining about the general good intentions of others because of a few bad apples.

fondonzella

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Jan 16, 2012 4:17 PM
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This old lady scenario is a dumb move. What makes you think girls and old ladies don't understand your motivation?

funspirit

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Jan 16, 2012 7:25 PM
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has one still not assisted someone regardless of motivation fondonzella? Even if it's a cubscout trying to earn a badge, he still assisted someone. That's the point.
The specious reasoning on this site boggles the mind a little.

fondonzella

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Jan 16, 2012 9:08 PM
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You're off then?

StillWithUs

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Jan 16, 2012 11:22 PM
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"you don't seem to understand anything"

Perhaps some of us are cynical because we recognize that intentions are not solutions. (Age can do that.)

But you yourself (not bun_cha of course - nope, again it's not about you) are not listening to the message under the cynicism. You feel better and giving (cue the confetti). How do you think that child is, right now at this moment. And what is being done about that. Or have you forgotten his needs, possible exploitation, and lack of future. What could we all do about that (besides offer soccer balls)?

We're are, however, all glad, in our cynical way, that you feel better for offering 2 of your 700,000 hour life to play soccer with a kid in a tough position in a cruel and unfair world.

NormC

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Jan 16, 2012 11:48 PM
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I'll put myself in the old ladies position

I had an old lady assist me across the road in Hanoi once!!

fondonzella

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Jan 17, 2012 12:21 AM
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I hope you appreciated the gesture - unconditionally of course!

Herbie47

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Jan 17, 2012 12:31 AM
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"YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS"

Maybe if you see your videos in a few years time you will realise or maybe not.

Yes people do things for good intentions but it does not always benefit the people, just look at people in villages where tourists go, from my experience the people in tourist villages are often miserable and begging for money etc., The places with few tourist visotors are usually happy and pleased to see you, not for your gifts.

rasheeed

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Jan 17, 2012 12:43 AM
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Is it over yet?
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