Gregor Robertson and Vision Vancouver
Replies: 56 - Last Post: Nov 29, 2011 2:09 PM Last Post By: shortsail
Nov 28, 2011 5:27 PM
Nov 28, 2011 6:26 PM
46David Miller left office a year ago because he knew he could not get re-elected.
That may be true, but you still can't say that he was booted out of office, coz he stepped down before he was able to be booted out.
Rob Ford won in a landslide
Rob Ford won by less than 100,000 votes, less than 50% of the popular vote. In a city the size of Toronto is that really a landslide?
On a side note Homer, you should check out 'Tasha hearts Rob Ford' on you tube, fricken funny.
Nov 28, 2011 8:08 PM
Nov 29, 2011 7:11 AM
48Homer, you're not Rob Ford's brother, are you? It would explain why he's turned out to be the most incompetent and unpopular mayor in Toronto, all in less than a year. Quite an anchievement.
Jjack, regardless of differing cost structures in the UK and Holland, car ownership rates are virtually identitical. Why is that?
Nov 29, 2011 10:30 AM
Nov 29, 2011 11:26 AM
UK is 25th at 525 vehicles/1,000 persons
Holland 26th at 523.
So, what explains this Jjack?
Nov 29, 2011 12:29 PM
51oh lord... I was talking about the cost of owning a car, not how many cars people own.
But I'm sure you've made a very valid point, and the fact that the european countries with the highest cost of car ownership also have the highest rates of bike ridership is purely coincidental. I stand corrected.
Nov 29, 2011 12:31 PM
52Eric - you're wasting your time. It's quite obvious by ol'jj's comeback that reading and comprehension aren't very high on his list of capabilities. In #26 he claims that differing tax rates account for a supposed difference in countries acceptance, ie ownership, of cars. He then comes back with some bizarre argument that even though you concede, according to him, that costs of owning a car are wildly different in two countries that have nearly identical rates of ownership you now have to prove that costs that aren't identical are. ????? Oh, I forgot we're talking about jj's brain and logic.
I also see that a minutia of the fog may be clearing. Wonders never cease.
Edited by: shortsail to acknowledge better late than never comprehension
Nov 29, 2011 1:04 PM
53sigh... I have this nephew. Because he's my sister's kid and family I'll say he's an OK kid, but to be honest he's a bit of a pain in the ass. You see, apparently his mom doesn't show him enough attention, and as a result he's constantly at your feet, bouncing around, shouting out, basically doing whatever he can to get the adults' attention. For him negative attention is better than no attention.
Perhaps not coincidentally she also has a dog. A horrible little shitzu (sp?) that jumps around yap yap yapping until someone pays him attention. We've tried ignoring him, hoping he'll learn and shut his yap, but no luck.
What does any of this have to do with driving cars or riding bikes? Not a thing. But these are the things that immediately come to mind every time this shortsail guy surfaces. You'll note he posted his usual little anti-jjack rant a mere two minutes after my post. Bloody hell, the guy must have these things pre-written, no one writes that fast.
Like my sister's dog and nephew I'm doing my best to ignore him, hoping at some point he'll go away. Or if he can't go away maybe he'll post something on this website that doesn't include my name. Surely others are just as tired of reading those posts as I am.
OK, there's the attention you were seeking shortsail. Now go and lie down and lick your balls (that's what my sister's dog does when we finally pat him)
Nov 29, 2011 1:24 PM
54oh lord... I was talking about the cost of owning a car, not how many cars people own.
Clearly, you were suggesting that because of the higher costs to own a car in Holland, that car ownership rates would lower there. This is a completely disingenous tangent you're taking here now that I've refuted your main argument.
Nov 29, 2011 1:41 PM
55This is a completely disingenous tangent you're taking here now that I've refuted your main argument
This is an arguement that neither of us can win, so what's the point. I don't know (and neither do you) what the "total" costs of car ownership are in any other country. Nor do we have any sort of breakdown about who actually owns all those cars - do the top 2% own the bulk of the cars? Who knows. Nor are we aware of what other factors are in place that influence the number of cars a country as a whole purchases.
Clearly, you were suggesting that because of the higher costs to own a car in Holland, that car ownership rates would lower there
No, clearly I was suggesting that because of the higher costs to own and operate a car there is a wider usage of bikes. I never said anything about rates of car ownership.
I made a simple point that Copenhagen is aways trotted out by the bike brigade as the shining example of a city that has embraced cycling. And I further pointed out that Denmark is the most expensive country in Europe to purchase a car. Now if you choose to view that as purely coincidental that's your perogative. (Do you really think it's a coincidence? I find that hard to believe.) Personally I think there's a correlation. But obviously neither of us can prove it one way or another, so no need to be calling me disingenous or trumpet that you've refuted my argument, because you haven't.
Nov 29, 2011 1:58 PM
56"and neither do you"
now he's back to his mind reader incarnation
"no need to be calling me disingenous or trumpet that you've refuted my arguement, because you haven't."
your cilmbdown in 59 suggests otherwise
"Now go and lie down and lick your balls"
that might be a more appropriate suggestion for your partner in mutual hate of mayor moonbeam. I think hh was bragging about having the rest of the equipment. Still not quite sure why, even given his admitted dislike of Vancouver, he would care who was elected mayor of the city. But you've obviously talked his language as he seems to follow in lockstep your ante deluvian political views.
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