Polizia / Carabinieri
Replies: 19 - Last Post: Mar 7, 2011 8:48 AM Last Post By: artemis2
Mar 7, 2011 1:14 AM
15What I think is that we have some 'institutions', if I may call them like that, which today exist only because they were inherited from the past. Now they have a glorious tradition and it would be unthinkable/unpopular to abolish them even though today they are no longer 'necessary' (again, if I may say so) as they were in the past.
Sushi, that is exactly what has happened to the Belgian gendarmerie/rijkswacht when they have been abolished and integrated into the police forces 10 years ago. Sadly enough, we have needed an enourmous scandal first, a blatant proof of incompetence of both forces to work together and to share their information in criminal matters where they were both involved, because they rather worked for their own results instead of trying to achieve a more important collective result, which they should have done. Unfortunately, a few children have had to pay with their lives before this country was disgusted enough and the politicians ready to see that two (semi) parallel forces were superfluous, extremely costly but most of all inefficient and contra productive.
Keeping both forces out of tradition makes many jobs but no sense. Keeping both of them to control each other is a sign that something is fudamentally wrong.
Mar 7, 2011 2:54 AM
Sounds very similar to the situation here....
Inefficiency,vast overmanning,duplication of roles and confusion.
Italy has a huge range of police forces (I can think of at least 7 or 8 different types) but they seem to do very little.Recruitment and training are ridiculous (my cousin is a carabiniere,so I know the whole process quite well).
One positive is that these forces provide a lot of jobs,particularly for people from the south of Italy who have few other opportunities..
Mar 7, 2011 5:49 AM
17the main problem was not law enforcement, but the Catholic Church's untouchability.
Sushi, that's a totally different, but of course also terrible scandal.
No, i was referring to the Dutroux Affair, which more or less has led to the national police reform.
At the end of the 1990s, following adverse reports arising from the Dutroux Affair, the Belgian Government decided to dissolve all the existing police forces. The parliamentary commission, which investigated the errors that were made during the search for the missing children, stated that the three police organisations did not work effectively and efficiently together. There were problems with cooperation and vital information was not exchanged.
Parliament, both the majority and the opposition, decided to abolish the existing structures, and created a new police organisation, structured in two departments: the Federal Police and the Local Police. In 2001, the Gendarmerie was dissolved.
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