from Berlin to Istanbul by bus or train
Replies: 5 - Last Post: Jan 16, 2011 11:30 AM Last Post By: noimotale
Jan 8, 2011 12:38 PM
I know that air flight is cheapest way to go to Turkey from Berlin.
However, I would like to taste to travell by land to there.
Please let me know how I can enjoy it and how much it cost in total and how many days at shortest.
I don't insist on direct one and I can stay anywhere on the way to Istanbul but not so many nights.
In my knowleadge, international bus from Germany is cheaper than train but there is no route from Berlin.
Is it true still now ?
If the whole cost is reasonable, I will go to Istanbul by land instead of air flight.
Hoping your support.
Jan 8, 2011 2:37 PM
1Eurolines.com /touring.de offer bus trips from Nuremberg for 139 Euro. Luggage costs extra. Nuremberg can be reached via ICE in 5 hours for about 40-50 Euro if you choose the rigfht day and time to travel. Cheap tickets are sold out early. Otehr option would be regional trains with budget tickets and shared costs--> only 10 or 20 Euro.
Berlinliniebus.de offers buses from Berlin to Budapest for 49 Euro as prebooking prices. The bus Berlin-Sofia(Bulgaria) can be booked for 88 Euro. There might some Turkish bus companies or half-legal private mini buses serving Berlin-Turkey because of the large community there but I don't know about it.
www.bahn.de with English option gives you schedules, but no fares until Istanbul. You will have to ask at a desk.
Connections are via Budapest and Nis. If you want to change the route(via Transylvania and Bucharest) you can do this in the advanced options. Both routes will have two changes (Budapest + Nis or Bucharest and include night trains). What you can see right now, is that there are still budget tickets available to Budapest for 39 Euro. These are prebooking prices which rise up with time. Earliest date to book is 92 days in advance.
Jan 9, 2011 2:06 AM
2Train travel will set you back around 250-300 € depending on whether you buy a through ticket or buy each leg locally.
The bus (from Munich) is a lot cheaper at 120 €, but will mean that you spend 48 hours straight cramped into a bus.
Both of these options are really only worthwhile if you break the journey in between, e.g. in Budapest, Belgrade, Romania or Bulgaria. If you're just looking for a method to get there, I'd seriously consider flying again which is both cheaper and a lot more comfortable.
Jan 9, 2011 5:06 AM
3This is a great adventure.
Take the direct daytime or overnight sleeper train from Berlin to Budapest. www.bahn.de will show train times.
Then take the overnight sleeper train Budapest-Bucharest (depart 19:10, arrive 11:47), ideally spend a night there as the connection is too tight, then the 'Bosfor' sleeper from Bucharest (dep 12:24) through great scenery to istanbul (arrive 0750 next day)
You'll find more info on the Budapest-Istanbul part of the journey, along with some photos and prices, at www.seat61.com/Turkey.htm . Just ignore the London & Paris to Budapest part of the journey shown on that page!
There's no restaurant car east of Bucharest, so take your own food and bottles of wine or beer, sit back in your sleeper and enjoy the journey!
Jan 9, 2011 6:28 AM
I think that this trip will cost much less than 300 €. I took trains from Munich to Istanbul last summer, and it was easy. There are trains from German cities to Budapest - connection is in Munich. If you book ahead (at least three days, more is better), you can buy these tickets for 39 €. (There's even a night train for 29 €.)
From Budapest, catch a train to Beograd. You can buy tickets on the day of travel for about 15 € at the station in Budapest.
In Beograd, buy either a one way ticket to Istanbul for about 51 €, or, if you want to travel around the Balkans some more, (or if you're planning a return trip), get a Balkan Flexi Pass.
You also have to make a reservation for a sleeper for at least the trip from Sofia to Istanbul, but it's easier and not much more expensive to make that reservation for the whole trip Beograd-Istanbul. I can't remember how much I paid exactly, but somewhere around 10 € - 15 € should cover it, I think.
So, you're looking at roughly 110 € - 120 € for the whole trip, reservation included.
Please be aware that these trains are always late. Don't count on making any connections, but plan to spend nights in some of the places you have to change trains in. Like, if you take a night train from Budapest to Beograd, you might not make the early morning train from Beograd to Istanbul, so you might have to spend the full day in Beograd and take the train the next day, or travel on to Sofia and spend some time there waiting for the Istanbul train.
I spent nights in both Budapest and Beograd, and the train from Beograd to Istanbul takes a full day, too, so I think with some planning - use the link below - the whole trip can be done in three to four days, with two nights in Hostels/Hotels.
For more information, have a look at these:
Deutsche Bahn has international timetabels for the whole trip:
Turkish Rail has time tables and at the bottom of the page are some prices. These are for the Istanbul -> Beograd trip, but are valid for the other direction, too. http://www.tcdd.gov.tr/tcdding/avrupa_ing.htm
This trip is an amazing adventure - have fun!
PS: Alternately, get a ticket from Berlin to Ljubliana (also from 29 € or 39 € if bought at least three days ahead) and then a ticket from there to Beograd for 25 € to 47 €. This option will probably be sllightly more expensive, but is worth checking out.
Edited by: fernweh87
Jan 16, 2011 11:30 AM
5Thank you very much for everyone for supporing me.
Unfortunately, I gave up to go to Turkey by bus or train. I wish to try next.
I am in Istanbul now and have found cheap flight to Europ ('London or Berlin) around 25-39 Euro.
It is suprising me.
Next time, I would like to make use of cheap flight of this kind.
From US$91.66 per night
From US$112.91 per night
(3 star Hotel)
From US$74.19 per night