Train/plane Paris to Venice
Replies: 11 - Last Post: Jan 11, 2011 3:11 AM Last Post By: whenwecan
Jan 1, 2011 2:32 PM
The options are plane or train (don't want to drive). Can someone suggest the best way of doing this? Cheap and quick is the ultimate but not adverse to spending a night somewhere else on the way if there is time to see something of the place.
I can't seem to find a way to get on an overnight train in Paris and arrive in Venice without changing trains in the middle of the night (would want a sleeper on the train). I have also looked at the very cheap flights (Ryanair and easyjet) They are so cheap compared to the other airlines and there doesn't seem to be a direct flight anyway with the major airlines. Are these budget airlines ok?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Jan 1, 2011 4:18 PM
11. By "next year" I assume you mean this year, as in 2011.
2. Has Easyjet released their schedules yet for October 2011? I can´t get a result for that route on their website.
3. Ignore Ryanair´s claim to fly from "Paris". Ryanair flies from Beauvais which is about 80 km/50 miles to the north of Paris. That means you have to add the time and money involved in getting from Paris to Beauvais. You also have to add on the cost of getting from Treviso to Venice. Plus the cost of checking your bags, plus....etc. That is how Ryanair makes its money, all those extras.
4. Cheap and quick are often mutually exclusive. Which of those is your priority? Cheap or quick?
5. Oh, sorry, I have never done that route so ignore what I wrote above :-))
Jan 1, 2011 8:34 PM
2Such a shame you can't edit your own post. Yes I mean this year - 2011.
Thanks for the info about the airports - that is an important consideration.
Happy to pay more if it means getting there in say half a day or if getting a resonable nights sleep on train. We took a sleeper from Copenhagen to Paris once and it was very easy with no changes but can't seem to find a similar arrangement for Paris to Venice.
It seems I may be planning too far ahead at this stage, if schedules aren't released yet.
Jan 1, 2011 11:11 PM
3There is a night train that leaves from Paris Bercy and goes to Venice, via Verona, which is just a bit outside Venice. It doesn't look as though you have to change trains.
Day trains too are listed here.
I used a date in January, it's way too early for October, although the schedules don't change much.
Jan 1, 2011 11:57 PM
4The sleeper train is direct, central Paris to central Venice. Departs Paris Gare de Bercy at 20:33, arrives Venice Santa Lucia station in central Venice on the banks of the Grand Canal at 09:37 next morning.
It has sleepers (1, 2 or 3 beds per room) and couchettes (basic bunks, 4 or 6 per compartment) and a restaurant car. Scenery is pleasant as the train swishes alongside the River Yonne out of Paris as night falls (at least in summer when its light).
You'll get the best fares booking at www.tgv-euope.com (but if you're from he US, select 'Canada' as your country, don't tell it you're from the USA as it will then open results on its US subsidiary, the more expensive RailEurope.com site). Also note that you must select 1st class to see 4 berth couchettes nd 1 and 2 bed sleepers, 2nd class to see 6 berth couchettes and 3 bed sleepers, but remember that all couchettes are 'economy' and all sleepers are the comfort option! www.seat61.com/Italy.htm has an illustrated guide to this Artesia sleeper train (and its Paris-Florence-Rome sister train), at the bottom of the page, so you can see what the sleepers and couchettes are actually like. The train passes briefly through Switzerland at night, if that makes any difference to you visa-wise.
Booked at www.tgv-europe.co.uk, a basic couchette on this train typically costs 35-55 euros if pre-booked.
Remember it'll save a hotel bill, as well as all the baggage fees, taxis or trains to nd from aierports, that you'd have to pay if you flew, taking the night sleeper is far more of a traditional European experience than flying.
Jan 2, 2011 3:30 AM
Jan 2, 2011 3:53 AM
6It is almost certain it will be cheaper and faster to fly: roundtrip starting at 55 euros on easyjet and 78 euros on Airfrance, both 80-minutes direct flights, while train will probably not cost less than 120 euros round trip.
It may be still interesting fro you to consider train however just because the night train that is mentionned above will cost more ...but actually saves you a hotel's night, which is neither cheap in Paris nor in Venice (although Venice is October can be much cheaper).
It is too early to book a train at these dates (tickets only sold 3-month in advance).
And easyjet has not yet released its flights either. So you are not in a rush.
Jan 2, 2011 5:49 AM
Jan 9, 2011 11:19 PM
8Train is neither the cheapest nor the fastest. That being said, there is an overnight train that is said to be one of the best overnighters in Europe. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/norway/travel-tips-and-articles/18130
For the train check this site, and insert dates for next month to test the prices. Lowest I found was $224 round trip
Easy Jet should work best for you. I looked at flights for myself and I found rates as low as $72 round trip depending on the dates.
Jan 9, 2011 11:45 PM
Jan 10, 2011 2:07 AM
10As MIS61 says, there is a good overnight train from Bercy (not the most romantic of Paris stations) right in to the middle of Venice. No change. I booked early through RailEurope because I was planning a special trip in advance, but the tips above should help you find a cheaper price. It's probably possible to turn up on the day and book, but when I went on a Sunday night in February it was quite busy.
SleazyJet would be quicker and probably cheaper (although if you take a night's accommodation into account maybe not), but not nearly as much fun...
Jan 11, 2011 3:11 AM
11Thanks for all the good information - we will decide between Easyjet and train when we have the rest of the trip sorted out (that will determine how much time and money we want to spend on that part of the trip. It sounds as if they are the two options we need to consider. We do love train trips but unfortunately I think the plane is going to win based on cost. We are waiting now for the floods to peak in Brisbane so thinking about this is a welcome distraction, while we wait.
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