TRAIN - SOUTHWEST - Kunming to Xiaguan (Dali)
Replies: 12 - Last Post: Nov 19, 2010 4:35 PM Last Post By: westwood
Nov 17, 2010 8:13 PM
TRAIN - SOUTHWEST - Kunming to Xiaguan (Dali)Hi China South West Travellers.
I have searched the web with little success for trains and train times from Kunmong to Xiaguan (Dali), can you help?
Also, what is better - overnight sleeper - 4 to a compartment or daylight train travel?
We are mature age and overnighting in a 4 berth hard sleeper with a couple of loud snorning strangers has limited appeal. OR Is the day bus a reasonable proposition?
Also what is the best and easiest connection from Xiaguan train station to Dali? Taxi or is there a direct bus?
Nov 17, 2010 9:09 PM
Xiaguan is a town in Dali and it has no train station. The train station was set in Dali.
There are four trains from Kunming to Dali, the time schedule are as follows:
L9014, starts from Kunming at 08:12 and arrives in Dali at 13:53, roughly 5.6 hours
K9618, starts at 10:38 and arrives at 17:56, roughly 7.2 hours
K9614, starts at 23:00 and arrives at 06:03, roughly 7 hours
L9602, starts at 23:30 and arrives at 06:56, roughly 7.5 hours
I think over-night sleeper is better for you since you are at mature age.
Nov 17, 2010 9:10 PM
Nov 18, 2010 1:12 AM
Nov 18, 2010 4:08 AM
Nov 18, 2010 5:06 AM
5Chinese political geography can be confusing.
There are two main urban conglomerations in this part of China. One, usually called "Old Dali" or simply "Dali" is the tourist centre. The other, usually called "Xiaguan" or "New Dali", is the commercial and transport centre. They're a bit less than 15 km apart.
The large area that contains Old Dali and New Dali, as well as many other places, is administratively known as "Dali City." Though called a city in Chinese, it's more like a county in the Western sense.
The train station is on the edge of New Dali.
Nov 18, 2010 8:10 AM
Nov 18, 2010 11:12 AM
Nov 18, 2010 8:43 PM
8Much as I like trains, I think the bus is quicker for this trip.
I'd travel by day for a trip of that length. The overnight trains don't take long enough for you to get a decent sleep, and arrive so early that you would probably have to hang around waiting for a hotel room to be ready.
The 4-berth compartments are soft sleepers and actually very comfortable, although it can be tricky to get into the top bunk as there is no ladder, just a tiny step that folds out of the wall.
Nov 18, 2010 9:12 PM
9"The 4-berth compartments are soft sleepers."
As I recall, some of the hard-sleeper carriages on this route are double-decker carriages, and the double-decker hard-sleeper compartments only have two decks of berths, not three, since ceiling height of course is lower. Even though there are four berths to a compartment, not six, they're still priced as hard-sleeper.
Agree that the train dumps you in New Dali at too early an hour. The highway would be better, unless it's undergoing one of its frequent re-routings for repairs.
Nov 19, 2010 2:13 AM
10Hi all, Again - thanks to our 'regular' contributors and also of course to 889, John 555 and striking sunset who made valuable comment.
Trying to work out independent travel from Australia using L.P. - 2007 South West Edition does have its problems and guys like you who answer what could be dumb questions make our planning (for mature age travellers) much easier.
We are drawn to day train or bus trvel - not decided yet.
Thanks for your help, we may have lots more questions.
Regards, Sabresail (and wife).
Nov 19, 2010 5:50 AM
11I went in one of the double decker trains. It was quite comfortable, although the journey is quite short - maybe 7 hours? One problem with the bus is getting to and from the bus station in Kunming - it will probably add an hour to the journey.
The railway has now been extended to Lijiang - although I think that is quite a short day time journey from new Dali.
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