Ryanair - Hand carry (cabin) luggage policy.
Replies: 122 - Last Post: Sep 27, 2012 12:08 AM Last Post By: penfold389
Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM
60A flying friend was just telling me about Ryanair and the ice machines today. Ice machine maker goes to Ryanair and says "We need to put our prices up" O'Leary says "No, this is all we can pay for ice" Ice guy says "Well, we'll have to withdraw our machines at that cos we're making a loss" O'Leary says "Fine" and hoicks out the ice machines. Another unnecessary extra eliminated.
Sep 8, 2010 6:47 PM
61#71, you bring up interesting situations which require a lengthy lesson in accounting and costing and social responsibility.
Costing methods and cost recovery involves firstly determining direct cost and then full cost.
Full cost being direct cost plus indirect cost and in modern times social costs.
So what is social cost? Example priority boarding.
Priority boarding was design to allow the very young, the old and infirmed to board first as an alternative to "assisted boarding". The assistance by a staff means wages cost associated with employing a person to assist boarding. If this direct cost is allocated directly to the old and infirm, their fare would be exorbitant and "society" will cry foul. So it was cheaper to allow them to board first, which required someone to supervise the gates. That someone would incur cost too. Therefore charging those who are "not old and not infirmed" a fee to secure priority boarding is a way of recovery "social cost" of providing priority boarding to the old and infirmed. There may be some cross subsidy from 'check in' fee to pay for social cost.
Basic rule: Costs have to be recovered somewhere for the airline to remain profitable and flying to serve you.
Sep 9, 2010 1:09 AM
62You bring up an interesting point which requires a short lesson in the realities of Ryanair (apologies if that is blunt and rude, it is meant to be witty and clever). If there was support provided to those requiring assistance I would agree there is a cost. The old, the infirm and the breeders do not get to go first with Ryanair. There is no support provided, there is no cost to be met in either providing assistance or priority boarding.
Oct 2, 2010 2:59 AM
63I know, I know and I also used to complain about flying with Ryanair Until someone said to me "which bit of no frills airline did you not understand?!"
Now I realise that people complain out of psychological embarrassment of flying with a budget carrier. Its as if they have been "caught" flying on the cheap and want to make a fuss that it is not "up to their usual standard".
Put up and shut up is the way to go and enjoy the fact that you have paid a fraction of the cost of flying with a regular carrier. The no frills model ONLY works if they don't provide any frills. Once you start demanding all sorts of customer service the wheels fall off the wagon.
Read the rules, be careful when booking and use something like the cabin max bags that we use. Simples.
Oct 4, 2010 1:50 AM
64Now that this has popped up again, BMI were recently reported as using dodgey measures in that the top of the measuring frame (the bags are lowered into a complete rectangle) had rounded corners meaning corner to corner was shorter than what they should be. I hope my description makes sense. It would be worthwhile watching for this.
Oct 4, 2010 1:52 AM
Oct 4, 2010 1:55 AM
Certainly when you fly Ryanair the only way to make it tolerable is to do precisely what they say and shut up. But it is not necessarily cheap. These days, we rarely manage to get cheap tickets on the main Ryanair route we fly, especially now they only fly it 4 times a week (down from 7). If I'm not going with the family, I fly with another airline to a more distant airport, not just because it has fewer petty annoyances, but because it is also cheaper.
Oct 4, 2010 2:56 PM
67Wow, this thread is still going!
In a few hours I will betesting Virginamerica's policy on cabin luggage.
I have a backpack which complies to measurements but I might be a 2kg over weight.
I can remove a jumper put it on, urgh it gets pretty warm.
Also put a few heavy items into my multipocket pants and anorek. If Virginamerica gets nasty I may have to cough up US$25.
Will report back to give an American dimension into this EU issue.
Oct 4, 2010 4:28 PM
68I have been on Ryanair every year and since there are complaints on luggage is there a type of luggage that Ryanair recommends and has anyone e-mailed the What folks on consumer testing of airline luggage. I live in the USA and read Consumer Reports on luggage. Hope for answers.
Oct 6, 2010 7:17 PM
69Virgin America's cabin baggage checker is abit dodgy. It is much smaller than QANTAS' or Ryanair's. My backpack which fits easily into QANTAS and Ryanair's testers had to be forced in.
HOWEVER, the check-in staff were very reassuring that I would not be penalised as the measurements were within their guidelines.
I weighed my cabin luggage and it came in at 19lbs or almost 4lbs or close to 2kg overweight. The Virginamerica staff said ok no problems, No one else checked and my backpack fitted in the overhead compartment of Virginamerica's brand new A320.
Hope teh above helped someone.
Nov 3, 2010 8:43 AM
Can anyone answer this:
I'm flying Ryanair from london to Dublin and I'll be carrying a backpack. But can I also carry another hand-carry too?
Both dimensions fit their required measurements.
Nov 3, 2010 8:54 AM
Nov 3, 2010 8:57 AM
72You can, I've seen people do it - for example a handbag and a suitably sized carry on bag - but I've also seen people have to shove one bag into another. The regs from Ryanair say one bag only but I have seen people carry on two and I have seen people either having to pay to put one of the bags into the hold or do the bag shove. The one bag rule applies to anything bought at the shops as well.
You can risk it if you want (and there is debate on the level of risk but I think most would say it was low) but the grief if they enforce is not going to be pleasant.
Nov 3, 2010 9:06 AM
73I've seen Ryanair staff in Dublin going up to people at the gate and making them combine their handbag and shopping into one bag
Nov 3, 2010 6:20 PM
74I'm flying Ryanair from london to Dublin
My experience with this is that the airport personnel at the security gates enforce the rule rigidly, especially in London which is where the poster is flying from...different matter at the boarding gate where the Ryanair staff sometimes apply the regulations randomly...but in general, I'd say you have to have only one bag...
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