Chinese Visa Sticky
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Apr 7, 2008 1:50 AM
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Apr 7, 2008 2:48 AM
32No FireArm, I'm not in error. From a Chinese legal standpoint, it is the same visa just issued for different purposes. There is no separate "F for business" and "F for short term students" in Chinese law. The relevancy here pertains to what documentation is currently needed and accepted in order to issue an F visa on the student basis, for up to 6 months and without duration-of-stay restrictions. In the past, one could obtain this on the basis of being a short-term student (or just saying so) with little or no chopped documents. The question put to ForHoover relates to what s/he did and whether or not it will turn out to be successful. If so, this may present an opportunity for others, or at the very least, some hope for those whose upcoming plans actually do involve being a legit S-T student. Without more concrete evidence, it's not clear right now whether even proper documents from a Chinese institution will trump the current visa policy restrictions. I presume anyone studying short-term or for summer at a well-known and/or well-connected university will be able to get a satisfactory F visa, but this may not happen for those studying at private organizations such as the for-profit language schools.
Apr 7, 2008 6:01 AM
Apr 7, 2008 7:36 AM
34Hmm.. We're still able to process multiple entry visas in the states for up to sixty days each stay for US Citizens. (as of this morning we are still able to) the only issue we have is when people do not have any previous history having been to China before. In this case, the consulate wants to see a two or three paragraph letter explaining why the person wants a multiple entry visa. (tourist) Its not published on the consulates website, this is what are couriers are experiencing and telling us.
For business visas, so long as the invitation documents are in order, still no problems.
If the person has previous visas, but has changed their passport we are telling folks to write that letter, plus add photo copies of former visas to the application forms.
All around this is a pain in the A S S. Consuls have indicated though that these changes are temporary and normal operations are likely to resume after the olympics.
Apr 7, 2008 8:53 AM
35Any recent experience on getting the multiple-entry at London consulate?
Apr 7, 2008 9:34 AM
36#32, See, now you're just nitpicking.
what documentation is currently needed and accepted in order to issue an F visa on the student basis, for up to 6 months and without duration-of-stay restrictions
That was my point. And I'll say it again. Students don't have to worry because they will get the papers from their university. But business travellers will be limited to 30 day duration of stay.
Apr 7, 2008 6:46 PM
37What about traveling to what could be sensitive areas? My itinerary involves me going from Beijing to Xin Jiang and crossing into China. Of course, 30 days is enough but will they give me a visa for this at this time, with all the Tibetan and Muslim issues?
Or, should I write on the application that I am planning on doing something in the East, and not mention what I actually intend to do?
Apr 7, 2008 8:26 PM
Not sure what you mean there. Xinjiang is part of China. You wouldn't be crossing into it; you'd already be in it. This is not a problem fir you since you won't need a double entry visa. Best not to put on the application.
Apr 7, 2008 9:01 PM
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Apr 8, 2008 12:23 AM
42New twist, previously un mentioned.
There is a new question on the visa application form: "Do you have a criminal record for anything in any country." If you answer "yes", the Wan Chai (Hong Kong) Chinese visa office WILL NOT accept your application. "You must apply in your home country." In international terms, it is not an unreasonable question, but it seems designed to keep out protesters.
We have absolutely no intention of doing any sort of protesting in China, and, in fact, must be home well before the games start. However, one of us does have a conviction for what is obviously an act of protest against the US government. We're considering going home to apply for visas, but don't want to blow the money and time if we won't get the visa. Has anyone answered this question "yes" for civil disobedience and gotten a visa in the US SINCE the clamp-down started? The Olympic torch is going to SF in the next couple of days, so it's not surprising that noone is answering the phone at the consulate in San Francisco -- but it is frustrating. We'd planned our two months in China as the culmination of our year-long trip, and so couldn't apply for visas at home.
Re previous questions:
Our experience has been that US citizens can apply ONLY in Hong Kong or in the US. We tried applying for visas in Chinese consulates in the last half dozen countries we were in, and they wouldn't take our application in any of them.
According to my traveling companion (tc), in Wan Chai they are ONLY giving 30 day, single entry visas. For Americans, they cost about HK$1000 for 3 day service (put it in Monday, get it Thursday), 150 more for 2 day service (get it Wednesday) and another 100 for 1 day service (get it Tuesday). According to this morning's SCMP, same day service is no longer available, and that was my tc's info as well.
My information is from a. my tc's trip to the Wan Chai office yesterday morning here in Hong Kong and b. Tuesday morning's South China Morning Post.
Apr 8, 2008 1:35 AM
43randomwalk - Have you considered sending your passports back to the US to a Visa Service there to obtain the visas?
It is done all the time by people in Taiwan who want to visit China. They send their passports to HK for a visa.
This should be MUCH cheaper than flying to the US.
You can probably discuss the matter of the conviction with the visa service and they might better be able to assist you.
PLease do report back your experience though.
Apr 8, 2008 2:27 AM
44Update from Hung Hom Station, Hong Kong:
There is a report in the SCMP today saying "visa on arrival services suspended". However, there are no notices stating that 5 day Lo Wu visas are not available at Hung Hom train station. This is in contrast to the China Hong Kong ferry terminal where it is clearly stated that you cannot get a visa after getting the ferry.
I asked at CTS at Hung Hom station, and they said they were 'unsure' and that they 'couldn't guarantee' a visa being available at Lo Wu.
I think it is still possible - Johnny posted that he got one on Saturday 5 April.
CTS at Hung Hom Station also told me that the price for a 30 day single entry visa for a British passport (pick up one day later) is HK$1400. Only single entry is available.
Forever Bright say that they can get a double entry visa at these prices:
British - HK$1000
US - HK$1350
Australian - HK$550
Therefore pays to shop around.
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