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otoole

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31-Jan-2007 11:07
Posts:  58

Hell in Huatulco

This poor guy could use some help. If you're Canadian (especially), or just the compassionate
sort, and you're in Huatulco or heading that way, consider seeing if there is anything you can
do for Mr. Kimber ...

'Get me out of here'
B.C. man says he has been suffering in a Mexican prison for past two years on false charges

Susan Lazaruk And Melissa Leong, CanWest News Service, National Post
Published: Wednesday, January 31, 2007

Peter Kimber left Mission, B.C., with his common-law wife and their seven children and drove
south in an old orange school bus to provide the kids with "an educational travel experience."
The family settled in Huatulco, Mexico, to earn extra money for their adventure; but once there,
Mr. Kimber, a construction worker, became embroiled in a disagreement with clients over a
home he was building. The clients, a British couple, complained to the local authorities, who
then arrested Mr. Kimber for "generic fraud."
More than two years later, his family and friends are still trying to free him from prison where
he says he is being beaten and tortured; they have begun mounting a campaign, backed by a
local politicians and a fringe U.S. presidential candidate, against what they lament is a
"corrupt justice system."
"Get me out of here," Mr. Kimber, 44, said yesterday from his prison in Huatulco, where he
suffers from kidney problems and other ill health. "I want somebody to actually help save what's
left of my life. I've tried it on my own for two years and four months. There's absolutely no way
for a human being to fight against these people legally." It never occurred to Mr. Kimber or his
eldest daughter, Jessica Kimber, 21, who is caring for her 17-year-old brother and her
15-year-old sister, to go to the media before now, he said. It was a chance meeting his
daughters had with an inspirational author and radio personality at a women's fair last October
at the Tradex centre in Abbotsford, B.C., that turned Mr. Kimber around. Anne Marie Evers
of North Vancouver mentioned the meeting to a close friend, John Kennedy, an entrepreneur
who is running as a Democrat for the 2008 U.S. presidential nomination, and asked him to join
in her prayers for the family. Mr. Kennedy, who with his sister had helped free their brother from
a wrongful conviction in Thailand in the 1990s, set up a professional-looking Web site ...
www.freepeterkimber.com. He also sent letters to the the prison warden demanding the end of
the ill treatment of Mr. Kimber, and to the International Criminal Court as well as the High
Commissioner of Human Rights, asking for their intervention. "It just made me furious the way
he's been treated," he said yesterday from his Georgia home. "It's one of the cruelest injustices
toward humanity. It's turned into a nightmare."
Meanwhile, Canadian Foreign Affairs is sending a staffer to "follow up on issues of health and
security," said spokesman Alain Cacchione. He said the Privacy Act prevents him from discussing
details of the case.
On April 1, 2001, Mr. Kimber and his family set off for Central America and Mexico. In June,
Mr. Kimber obtained permits and entered into a contract to construct a home for Kevin and Tess
Hunneybell, who run a Huatulco bed-and-breakfast and cafe. They could not be reached yesterday.
The first phase of the project was finished and approved, but during the second phase, some
issues arose, his family said. Mr. Kimber said the couple reneged on the contract and had him
arrested. Police took him from his stepdaughter's birthday celebration on Oct. 15, 2004. His
then-common-law wife presented evidence to a judge to prove Mr. Kimber's innocence but the
evidence went missing a week later, his family said. On three separate occasions, his family had
paid significant fees to court-appointed lawyers who in turn disappeared with the money, they say.
In January, 2005, evidence was presented to a judge a second time. The following month, his
family was taken from the school bus where they were living and interrogated by immigration
officials. His family eventually returned to Canada. Whenever his kids have extra cash, they send
it to Mr. Kimber for his food and supplies.
Mr. Kimber said he's been involved in about 150 fights in prison, where he's been stabbed with a
blood-filled syringe by another inmate and thrown into isolation. "It's by a seven-foot-by-seven-foot
room and the last time I was in there, there were 16 people in that room, and I was there for six days."

Now, I realize that the world is full of injustices, that this is only one side of the story, and that this
article leaves the reader with a lot of unanswered questions but, by any measure, this is a very sad
situation. Where is the prison in/near Huatulco located? How hard would it be to visit an inmate? Would
it be difficult for someone to bring a detainee food, clothing or something like a carton of cigarettes
(to use as "currency" with other inmates)? Could you be reasonably assured that things like this
wouldn't simply be confiscated or stolen and never benefit the prisoner at all?

Best regards,
Mike OToole.

'Acepto que soy un descarado,
tambien un sinvergüenza,
pero ... ¿qué puedo hacer?'
-Los Tucanes de Tijuana.

Bartleby

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31-Jan-2007 11:50
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In June,Mr. Kimber obtained permits and entered into a contract to construct a home for Kevin and Tess Hunneybell, who run a Huatulco bed-and-breakfast and cafe. They could not be reached yesterday.
While I have sympathy for Mr. Kimber and his family, shouldn't the reporter have waited to get the other side of the story before publishing this article? Something doesn't add up in this story.

(s)Dan

ls650

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31-Jan-2007 12:27
Posts:  237

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I have heard of this story before. I won't comment except to say there are two sides to every story, and this article only reports one of those sides.

CaptainSinister

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31-Jan-2007 14:19
Posts:  16

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From Is650 I have heard of this story before. I won't comment except to say there are two sides to every story, and this article only reports one of those sides.


Are you implying that this Canadian is responsible for his own misfortune??

It's extremely unfair to make this type of statement without backing it up with facts or is this just another opportunity on your part to trash those Cheap Canadians !!

Captain Sinister

Coqueton2004

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31-Jan-2007 15:41
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Was he living there legally and authorized to work or just finding a cheap place to live? It sounds fishy but some people always seem to get caught up in messes. I wonder what his history was like in Canada.

Si yo no le hago daño a nadie, quién eres tú para decirme como vivir?

No ladro, muerdo!

Altahabana

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31-Jan-2007 16:27
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"Generic fraud" sounds like a euphemism for theft. I don't know any details but it sounds like more is involved than a dispute over the quality of the work.

njscott63

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31-Jan-2007 17:28
Posts:  443

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Boy ,not getting a lot of sympathy in this group.Regardless of how he got there I there wish you luck in helping him.It could be me if I get in an accident without insurance.I would guess he is in the jail in Pochutla.It was always my understanding that the prisoneres were at the mercy of thier families to feed them.You may want to try posting on tomzap, but forget the explanation and just say your trying to help someone out.Maybe he deserves to be in there, maybe not, but there are an awful lotta crooks in my country running free


pelutzo

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31-Jan-2007 17:38
Posts:  45

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i think generic fraud is not a punishible crime i dont know anything i studied law and studying my major, i would think that a) i would call up a lawyer instead of writing posts on lonely planet, b) make my lawyer call the local humane rights autorithy c) call the embassy maybe they can help you out with hiring a lawyer.

njscott63

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31-Jan-2007 17:58
Posts:  443

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That headline sure caught my eye.I was thinking another all inclusive type housewife would be complaining about poor service, only one brand of bottled water and no bathrobes


ls650

ls650 avatar

31-Jan-2007 18:39
Posts:  237

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Those must be some good drugs you're on, Cap'n.

otoole

otoole avatar

01-Feb-2007 14:58
Posts:  58

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Sadly, there was no follow up in today's National Post (Feb. 1/07) so I did what digging I reasonably
could and here's what I found... please note that this is a cut- and -paste patchwork of information
gleaned from various websites with a little editing thrown in for the sake of clarity; I can't confirm
the accuracy or validity of what is presented below, so please bear that in mind as you read it.

-Mr. Kimber is an inmate at the Reclusorio de Potchutla.

-Mr. Kimber apparently obtained all of the proper permits and entered into a contract to build a home
for a British couple he met. The first phase of the project was completed and approved by the
clients; however during the second phase of the project there was a disagreement between the two
parties. The clients accused Peter of breach of contract and complained to the local authorities.
This started a downward spiral for Peter and his family in a very corrupt justice system. Kevin and Tess
Hunneybell, who run the Oaxaca Hotel/Casa Blanca Cafe Bar in Huatulco, had him arrested for fraud.
According to witnesses, documents and oral testimony from Mr. Kimber and others, Mr. and Mrs. Hunneybell
not only stole Mr. Kimber’s life, but also stole all of his personal property as well after accusing him
of fraud when Mr. Kimber confronted them for breach of contract for not paying him for work he and his
company completed on their home.

-Immigration police arrested Peter's common-law wife and their girls. They were interrogated for 15 hours.
Eventually immigration took the family back to the bus (where they were living) to retrieve some belongings.
The bus had been ransacked and only pots and pans, dishes, some clothing and odds and ends remained.
They were then taken to an immigration detention center in Mexico City and subsequently deported.
Lawyer Peter Benning, a friend of Kimber's, said his imprisonment "came out of a business disagreement,
the kind of thing that would be resolved in small-claims court in Canada and he's been in jail for two years
and four months and it's not even clear if he's had a trial yet."

-The Oaxaca Hotel is located on La Bocana beach about 15 minutes from Huatulco’s big resorts.
Several reviews of the Oaxaca Hotel/Casa Blanca Café-Bar in La Bocana were very positive and
the Hunneybells were described as both pleasant and helpful.

-A Google search turned up this Jan./05 description of the area … ‘Come on people get real! La Bocana is nothing
more than a filthy little residential area where a few long-time locals were given property because their original land
(closer to La Crucecita, Tangolunda and Santa Cruz) was taken from them by the Mexican government in order to
build the resort area commonly known as Bahias de Huatulco. The nearby lagoon is water coming from the mountains
after it passes through several villages/settlements where people bathe themselves and wash their clothes. Is this
water the kind I'd want to swim or wade in? I think not! The little restaurants down by the water are okay places to
get a bite to eat but they are nothing to rave about. The locals don't care much for the "tourists" coming to this area
they are already pissed off about being relocated. The bugs will eat you alive although this time of year they are not
as numerous as other times of the year. If you've got an hour to kill then by all means wander over to this area and
have a cold beer at one of the places on the beach but PLEASE don't rave about this area like it's some "Paradise Lost".’

… then, this comment: ‘Heck, the first thing you see when you turn down the street to La Bocana is a broken down
dilapidated bus where a family of seven or eight people live along with their detached outhouse built right on the edge
of the street.’

-I wonder of if this is the Kimber’s bus?

-The Oaxaca Hotel in La Bocana may no longer be in business judging by this response to a query from June/06 …
“It closed down due to lack of tourism in the area (sad but true). It was a fun bar for a while ... pity really ... coldest beers
in Huatulco.”

Best regards,
Mike OToole.

'Acepto que soy un descarado,
tambien un sinvergüenza,
pero ... ¿qué puedo hacer?'
-Los Tucanes de Tijuana.

otoole

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02-Feb-2007 08:56
Posts:  58

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Here are a couple of reviews for the Hotel Oaxaca (Lot 12 Manzana 5, Playa La Bocana, Huatulco, Mexico) ...

We booked into this hotel for six days based on their own website and the glowing reports on trip advisor.
We are experienced travellers who prefer to use local small B&Bs or hotels in natural locations for several trips
a year. We don't need five star rooms and facilities but we like our creature comforts.
This hotel or B&B did not live up to the presentation on the website or even to the reviews left here by
previous guests. The surroundings are: a beautiful beach for surfers and active swimmers, bird watching
at a lagoon, walks and the advertised conservation area. The "Oaxaca-Hotel" Casa Blanca is a relatively
new construction facing the drop-off and parking roundabout for the beach. Our room (one of two available
for guests) was plain with minimal furniture and private bathroom with tepid water shower. One chair and
a table served as the only furniture for storing clothes. There is a rod for clothes hangers but no shelving.
We used the chair for a night table and the second bed for clothes we unpacked. The ceiling fan was
sufficient to cool the room at night but the owner suggested we leave the door open by day to ensure
that the room didn't heat up too much for the evening (the concrete ceiling is the underside of the roof
which heats up in the sun). The room and bathroom were very clean although we could smell the floor
drain from the bedroom. The lack of a railing on the upstairs landing could be very dangerous for young
children, or drunks (if you could find a drink). This hotel was not for us because: there was nowhere to sit,
the balcony could barely fit the white plastic chair; there was nowhere to eat apart from the very modest
seafood eatery next door, which had a very limited menu and another restaurant/bar which closed by late
afternoon; it took a 10 -15 minute taxi ride - if you could get a taxi - or a collectivo/taxi up on the highway to
Crucecita, the main town serving the Bays of Huatulco area. We did not find the owner very helpful on our
arrival, and in fact he seemed rather disinterested in his guests. We moved on after one night to Puerto Angel
just up the coast.

My girlfriend and I had the most relaxing time staying at the Oaxaca Hotel in La Bocana. La Bocana is a small
town (85 people), 10 minutes away from the big resorts. Its close enough to go to a fancy bar (if you want to),
or use the ATM or golf, BUT far enough away to be alone on the beach and do nothing. I would rent a car,
driving is easy, the roads are well marked, wide and paved. Some of the nicest roads in Mexico. We went
during the busiest time of the year and there was almost no traffic. If you don't get a car, it's easy to call a
cab at the Oaxaca Hotel, even if your Spanish is bad, because the owners can help you and they are bi-lingual.
La Bocana is right on the beach. The town consists of 3 palapa restaurants, a few private homes, and the
Oaxaca Hotel. The restaurants serve fish that is caught by local fishermen the night before. It is cooked and
served simply, and is very delicious. The town is laid-back. Not too crowded, a little bit of surfing, a little bit of
boogie boarding, a few Mexican families hanging out. We felt very safe and welcome there. The town's surf
instructor is from England. The owners of The Oaxaca Hotel are also English. Kevin and Tess are fun people
who are completely integrated into the community. They know everything about the area and can arrange all
kinds of activities. Because of them, we had the opportunity to celebrate New Year's Eve with the residents of
the town. It was the best New Year we've ever had. Their hotel is clean and bright with good views and thick
towels. The food is good and they have a full bar. There are only three rooms so it is never crowded. It's like
staying at the home of a cool relative. Kevin and Tess helped us to have one of the best vacations we've ever had.

If you click on this webpage, click on 'Candid travel photos' and click 'next', you'll find a photo of the (ex-)? Hotel Oaxaca...
Hotel Oaxaca in Huatulco

Best Regards,
Mike OToole.

'Acepto que soy un descarado,
tambien un sinvergüenza,
pero ... ¿qué puedo hacer?'
-Los Tucanes de Tijuana.

herringchoker

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02-Feb-2007 13:18
Posts:  75

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I think he was put in jail for not tipping. That seems to have serious consequences in Huatulco, especially if an English teacher at the Universidad finds out about it.

The jail in Pochutla is getting well populated with NOBs who have been prosecuted by other NOBs for disagreements over land and houses. Just a hunch, but the volume of mind-altering substances used in the area might be conducive to misunderstandings and forgotten conversations.

wd

wd avatar

02-Feb-2007 14:54
Posts:  44

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Enough hearsay, already.

Is650...it's time to dish.

The other side of the story.

RichTX1

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02-Feb-2007 15:48
Posts:  1,514

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Generic fraud is a criminal offence, and you do sit in jail on a denunciacion until your case is heard.

No Canada bashing, but the source is another of the Nationial Post chain paper... which has a record of bad reporting from Mexico. They are the same chain that claimed Canadians were being attacked by pirates (turned out a guy had botched a suicide attempt while on a boat in the Sea of Cortez); were targeted by Zapatistas (a Canadian got winged in San Cristobel by a drunk with a gun -- who was terribly ashamed, confessed to the police and apologized to the Canadian and to everyone else around); were the object of coverups nefarious plots to steal videocameras and kill them in Acapulco (we all remember that one, don't we). Sorry, that's not a reliable source, and... as others have mentioned... we'd need to hear from the defrauded party.

This fellow isn't the first foreigner to get tossed in a Mexican slammer, and then start complaining to the press about ill-treatment, and using the old "I'm innocent, they hate foreigners and make me pay bribes" story. I've heard it before. A variation a few years ago (the Canadians will be happy to hear, from a USAnian!) that his arrest and incarceration for child molestation was a similar injustice. Nope... child molesters get treated like dirt in prisons everywhere (some silly twits in Mexico City wanted me to sign a petition to the guy's congessman, which I wouldn't do. As far as I was concerned, he could rot in jail. Foreigners don't get "special rights" anywhere as far as criminal offenses go).

Mexican jails suck, yeah... but the Canadian consul should handle that, not the tourists.

Pero yo ya no soy yo.
Ni mi casa es ya mi casa.
(Garcia Lorca)

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