READ THIS: TAILORING in THAILAND
Replies: 494 - Last Post: Oct 21, 2013 6:47 PM Last Post By: CowboyBuddha
Feb 12, 2013 5:47 PM
465A real bespoke suit rakes 90 hours to be made. 3 to 4 times fittings at least. The lining only needs linen or cotton that by himself is of such quality that it could be used to make a jacket. No glue, hand sewn all the way.Count 750 € (850$) at least to get something well made. But most people do not really know what a good suit is or should look like. Saville Row London? It starts at 4000 € for a 2 pieces bespoke. But when wearing it wathecevr you look like naked , you will look gorgeius when wearing it. There is no miracle. A real cashmere jacket made to mesure , no bespoke will cost 1500 €.
Feb 12, 2013 5:49 PM
466A real bespoke suit takes 90 hours to be made.And 5 to 6 people will work on it. 3 to 4 times fittings at least. The lining only needs linen or cotton that by itself is of such quality that it could be used to make a jacket. No glue, hand sewn all the way.Count 750 € (850$) at least to get something well made. But most people do not really know what a good suit is or should look like. Saville Row London? It starts at 4000 € for a 2 pieces bespoke. But when wearing it ,wathever you look like naked , you will look gorgeous when wearing it. There is no miracle. A real cashmere jacket made to mesure , no bespoke will cost 1500 €.
Feb 18, 2013 12:43 AM
467I don't know about the higher end suits, but I do now about the lower price ranges. In the UK, you can buy an off the peg wearable 100% wool semi-fitted suit from "The Suit Company" or similar from about GBP200 (USD300) in a sale. In my opinion, there is simply nowhere in BKK that competes.
What is the point of three fittings, if the fabric only looks good for a month after? In addition, lots of small tailoring errors in a typical BKK tailor would simply cause one of these suits to be rejected by an off the peg retail store in the UK, and you are likely to notice this later. For those who think noone would notice, a like-for-like comparison on price simply leaves the BKK suit without adequate quality control an inferior suit to a same-priced semi-fitted equivalent in Europe.
Apr 15, 2013 4:36 AM
468Forgive me for the next question but what is a suit exactly?
Jacket, trousers and waistcoat?
I'd like visit a tailor in Bangkok that can customize a few 'normal' jackets with an unusual lining (e.g. tigerprint or purple coloured). All should be done in a day or so. Any recommendations?
Preferably someone who I could e-mail in advance with my request.
Apr 22, 2013 11:03 PM
469Tailoring in Bangkok, Hong Kong, Thailand is very famous. * David fashions * are well known in Hong Kong. The benificial service they provide is -> online service. They also take measurements online perfectly.
Jun 2, 2013 9:52 PM
I registered on LP just to add to this EPIC thread. I visited Bangkok a few weeks back and wanted to get a few suits done, but only had time to visit Milan Suit and MoonriverbyVJ. I can see why the the OP didn't recommend any suits getting made in Bangkok, except by Narin.
Here's my report back:
Visited MoonriverbyVJ. Not a bad place, but just didn't have enough time to get a suit there. I kept thinking about OP's remarks.
However, I did visit Milan Suit run by Kiet. I got about 4 shirts made by him for about $1000-1200 baht each (can't remember). Shirts are great, fortunately I brought in a sample so he could base it off that. It was ready the next day! Kiet doesn't bargain, prices are fixed. I looked at the suit quality and agree with the OP, I wouldn't get the suits made here. The style isn't right, and the cuffs aren't functional.
Kiet's quite nice, and is about 62 years old. He's planning to retire in 3 years or so, so get 'em while he's still around.
I got his business card and here are the details:
326/4-5 Near Soi 14 Sukhumvit Rd, BBK
It's literally underneath the Asok Skytrain Station, opposite the hotel side.
Tel: +66 02 229 45 49-50
Thanks Geographicus and Neil for contributing this this tread, it's a lot of reading but worthwhile. I eventually went to HK where I got my suits made. More expensive but it's a long term investment.
Edited by: CowboyBuddha
Jun 2, 2013 10:37 PM
471How wonderful Mr Cowboy! A poster who reads through the thread and decides to risk taking our advice!!
Glad you found the shirts to your liking. Kun Kiet is a no fuss Thai tailor and as distinct from most other BKK tailors, he's happy to let you do the choosing. Only want 3 shirts? Fine. He knows you'll be back.
Milan Suit is the only place I'd be bothered with for shirts now and that is after 8 years of trying different Hong Kong shirt makers.
For suits, I'd give BKK a wide berth and go to Hong Kong. As in BKK, Hong Kong is awash with tailors who'll sew you up rubbish from over the border. Avoid Raja and Sam's and save yourself the agony! However, there are a few very good tailors and one great value tailor, who up until 15 months ago (and perhaps still) could rustle up an excellent jacket or suit in under a week, of very good quality indeed.
In brief, in BKK stick with the Thai tailor, Mr Kiet @Milan Suit for shirts and in HK stick with the Chinese tailors like WW Chan (high end) and Peter Lee at Lee Baron (quality & value). Lee Baron is quite frankly all the style and finish most men will ever need. He's at Shop No. 33 Ground Floor,
Far East Mansion, 5-6 Middle Road, TST, Kowloon (852) 2721-5405.
Jun 3, 2013 1:57 PM
472Thanks NeilHK for the note. I just had to doublecheck the suit quality... I was 80% sure I wasn't going to get a suit made, but wanted to check out some shops regardless.
That's interesting that you use Milan even after HK shirts. I'm going to have some HK shirts made. What were so bad about your HK shirts vs. Keit's? I only wish there were more fabric options at Milan.
Lee Baron and WW Chan seem like the big favourites on Styleforum. I'll make sure to get a suit from Lee Baron.
Jun 3, 2013 5:26 PM
473I should have expressed the HK shirt comment a bit better. I used Jantzen and Ascot Chang in HK and both were disappointing for different reasons.
At about $50 US for a shirt, Jantzen is good value but the fabrics are variable. Two years on, 3 of the shirts have collars falling apart. Good value? Probably, and to be fair, a couple of the shirts are still going strong. Just don't get anything else done at Jantzen and stick to shirts.
Ascot Chang made up one shirt which had to be taken back and altered. As far as I'm concerned, that's a fail.
Kiet has limited fabric that's for sure, but if you stick to white and blue oxfords and poplins he is fine. If you want anything better take your own to him. He smiled when I did this as my selection was pretty crap, but it was before I knew much about shirting fabrics such as Acorn.
Peter Lee at Lee Baron apparently does a good shirt, but I haven't had any made by him.
Jun 5, 2013 9:00 AM
474This appears to be one of the best resources on tailoring in bangkok on the internet and after reading through all 32 pages of the forum, I would like to seek some advice on getting shirts and pants made in bangkok.
I would most probably get my stuff done by Kiet but would like to know what would be the best way to go about doing this. I believe that a made to measure shirt means that the shirts should be made to my body measurements. I assume that this means that the shirt would not have any particular cut but would be cut to the measurements taken. However, I read in this forum that we should consider bringing our favorite shirts to have them copied instead. How would this work?Does it mean that we cannot trust the measurements that the tailor would take or is the copying in relation to particular elements (like collar sizes and shape?) or how loose we like our shirts to hang from our body?
I have a recently tailored shirt that fits really well but another shirt off the rack from gieves and hawkes that has a nicer collar in my opinion. Would it work better for me to bring the gieves and hawkes shirt for Kiet to copy the collar and leave him to measure me up for everything else, or should I just get him to copy the other tailored shirt and add on the collar element from the gieves and hawkes?
Appreciate your advice...
Jun 5, 2013 4:27 PM
475Calvin just take the G&H shirt in with you. Kiet will ask you to put it on and then he will note all of the measurements. You can then select your fabric, collar style, cuffs etc.
Bangkok tailors have a particular default style which is not to my taste. If you just choose a fabric you'll get the 'house' style so be specific. Taking a favourite shirt is the way to go.
Jun 5, 2013 4:51 PM
Thank you very much for your quick reply indeed...
if the tailor is to take the measurements from the shirt, then the other tailored shirt (from Tailor Chan in Singapore) fits alot better and would be better material to copy. One of the reason why the Gieves was a favourite of mine was that the cut of the collar (they all are spreadaway collars) is a tad larger than my tailored one somewhat and the cloth is probably nicer (can only afford a mid range hubeross at Tailor Chan)...
I am assuming when getting the tailor to copy, they are just copying the styles (i.e. cuffs/collars) but still measuring you up and making the shirts to your current build/size?
I also made shirts at Lala Duly but was not impressed with the fit as compared to my Tailor Chan shirt and the Gieves... That said - it could be my body at the time the shirt was being made (I was between sizes and had put on and then lost alot of weight then) and am probably now in a much different shape than when I made the Lala Duly shirt (impressive nice fabrics)...
Does Kiet still charge 1200? Anyone knows what Narin charges now? and how much typically for pants?
Jun 5, 2013 5:18 PM
477The experience that I have had with Kiet over many years now (and that of friends I have sent there) is that he will do what you want. Take in your shirt and then look at his Thomas Pink catalogue (for example) and choose your spread collar. He will do whatever collar /cuffs you desire. You may also wish to specify mother of pearl buttons too.
Jun 6, 2013 12:03 AM
Jun 6, 2013 3:15 AM
479Nana Station? Not sure.
I'd go to Asok station and head towards Nana. You'll go past Milan Suit and then keep going a few hundred metres to Narin Couture. I've got a couple of pairs of slacks he made some years ago now and they are still going strong. Five days should be enough as the measuring, cutting and sewing is done on premises. Expect to pay $150 depending on the cloth. I went for a good middle of the range Vitale Baberis Canonico 120s wool. He has more expensive cloth but it's done pretty well. That may sound like a lot compared to other tailors in the area but he is one of the best in BKK and the product will be made to measure.
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