Budget Visits to Hawaii?
Replies: 19 - Last Post: Mar 27, 2013 9:46 AM Last Post By: Phil2012
Mar 24, 2013 3:16 AM
Mar 24, 2013 5:39 AM
1No. The problem is, you need a car to get around the islands, other than Oahu. Oahu has some decent camping, but without a car is a pain. Hawaii overall is resort honeymoon destination, its not cheap and actually offers little for the budget traveler.
Why people on a budget go there i dont know, there is far more beauty, better beaches, more exotic culture, and far better transport, lodging and food, inYucatan Mexico, from Cancun to Belize/Guatemala border, and all of Central Americas, has volcanoes, far more nature and wildlife, rainforest, cloudforest, lakes, rivers, waterfalls and two coast, indigenous cultures still intact and not a dance show at a hotel happy hour. You can backpack Central America for about $40 day. The flights are also shorter from the USA, and usually 1/2 the price, under $450 R/T in rainy season, the best time to visit, May to Oct. Best part, the ocean is much warmer, and endless scuba diving and surfing...
Mar 24, 2013 5:57 AM
2Tim, I would be in Mexico right now if it weren't for the lawlessness that I've experienced the last two times down. I've surfed/swam on most every beach there...and lived in many towns across the country...not much about Mexico that I haven't experienced...lived all over the country over 8 years...same goes for Guatamala...did it all...I'm older now and want to relax and not have to worry about theft and corruption at every turn...am now considering some spots in the Philippines that might fill that need...any thoughts/input is appreciated...specific places are the most help...thanks, Phil
Mar 24, 2013 6:15 AM
3Tim, Thanks for the thoughtful reply. The short answer is that I've done everything in Mexico and Guatemala over many years. Been there, done that. Looking for something new...now considering the Philippines. Any thoughts or suggestions are always appreciated. I'll just assume that Hawaii just will not fit my budget. But I'm open to new ideas.
Mar 24, 2013 7:52 AM
Mar 24, 2013 7:59 AM
5Also, I am not aware of any safety issues on the Yucatan from Cancun to Belize, this is a rather popular and well traveled route for the backpackers.
In regards to lawlessness, I actually saw more fights, on the surf beaches in Maui than anywhere in Central America, and car break ins in Hawaii beaches and parks are rampant and a major safety issue. The homelessness situation living in the state and local parks on Oahu is far worse than anything in the CA region, not to mention the blatant drug use and drugheads.
Most tourist to Hawaii dont see it, but I goo well off the beaten path when I travel, I am not the resort type, and Hawaii aint what its cracked up to be, unless you surf, like a self contained resort for the kiddies, or can afford to rent a awd car to discover thats further afield, at least outside of the big 3 islands...
Mar 24, 2013 8:08 AM
Mar 24, 2013 8:33 AM
7To Costa Rica, yes its the next Hawaii, but still a great value in comparison, but they have had a bout of inflation and food prices are an issue, but a beer is still $1.50.
Been to SE Asia 5 times, all countries, enjoyed Burma best, then Laos and Vietnam. Thailand is too touristy, but very nice. lived in China in 2011. Would not go there...LOL.
Mar 24, 2013 9:16 AM
8Well, about 6-7 years ago I was almost tempted to go teach English in Costa Rica until I found out that one could not live on one's salary...so that sorta' put me off on C.R. at the time. Now that I have semi-retired, I might give it a second thought. But I must admit, I have heard from some people that crime has increased recently...from folks that actually live there. But, I've always wanted to see the beaches for myself. I like to body surf and swim. When i lived in Mexico, I spent the winters at the beach and the summer in the mountains...hard to beat in my opinion. But Mexico doesn't welcome "the gringo" as warmly as it once did. The only place in SEA that I still want to see is the Phils, but I plan to avoid Manila like the plague.
Thanks for your interest and info.
Mar 24, 2013 11:46 AM
9There's a YMCA in Honolulu. There's some hostels and other similar types of accommodations around. There's some limited camping options. It's not the best place for budget travelers, but it's certainly possible.
But, based on what you wrote above, it sounds like the PI is a better fit. For what it's worth, my brother was just there for a month and loved it. He flew directly into Cebu City (via Seoul) so he bypassed Manilla entirely.
Mar 26, 2013 7:07 AM
10better beaches, more exotic culture, and far better transport, lodging and food, inYucatan Mexico, from Cancun to Belize/Guatemala border
I disagree mentioning the Yucatan and Hawaii in the same breath. On a side note, I found the Playa del Carmen / Tulum / Cancun / Cosumel area to be extremely SAFE and beautiful the few times I was there (we drove most of it)....but there is something about Hawaii Ive always liked. Many call it a tourist trap. I guess, but I disagree somewhat. I think Thailand is now a tourist trap. Ive hit up many of the major beaches in the world (Austrailia, Thailand, Caribbean x 10, South Pacific, South Europe) ... Hawaii still has me coming back...especially with the cheap flights now.
There are many reason why Ive frequented Hawaii soooo many times. In the beginning we did it on budget...now we splurge.
I agree backpacker prices are hard to find, but seriously, if you fly way out there, suck it up and pay the $70/night (maybe cheaper) for a hotel. YES they can be found 3-4 blocks off the main Waikiki strips....much cheaper with a package purchase (saw one from Canada 7 nights including flight and hotel for $799!).
Mar 26, 2013 7:12 AM
11Phil...never been to the Philippines, but from what I've heard, its quite low on my list (something about an armpit?). Zanzibar, the Salomons, and Cook Islands are on our radar for the next 2 years....maybe Maldives on our 10 year anniversary.
Yes, Im aware this second post has absolutely nothing to do with the OP;)
Mar 26, 2013 7:14 AM
Mar 26, 2013 7:51 AM
You mean that the price to Hawaii is $900?? That's nonsense, you can often fly for as cheap as $300 r/t from western US although $500 is more common.
You CAN live cheaply on Hawaii, I've lived there for months, I used to rent a small room for $300/month and get around on a bike and sometimes hitchhiking, and cook my own food. I've also spent nights in a car and camping out in the wild. There are a lot of eccentric/weird/poor people living on Hawaii. If you stay for a while it's easy to live on the cheap. A girl I stayed with for example about 4 years ago had bought a car for $800 that she used to get around the island and was renting a cheap room in a house of an old eccentric guy. I don't know what your criteria are though. How long you want to stay, if you can consider biking, camping, hitchhiking, renting a room, etc.
Mar 26, 2013 8:02 AM
14I LOVED the Philippines btw. And it's one of the cheapest countries I've traveled. I think that would be a great alternative. I find the Yucatan peninsula beautiful, but prices are getting really inflated and the touristy areas like Cancun are horrible. Nice beaches, but it's sooo touristy and full of young drunk westerners. I'd go to Central America over Yucatan! Zanzibar was interesting, but overrated and touristy in my opinion.
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