New Florida Law - International Driving Permit required for all foreigners
Replies: 21 - Last Post: Feb 15, 2013 11:42 AM Last Post By: max_mexico
Feb 14, 2013 4:43 AM
New Florida Law - International Driving Permit required for all foreignersJust heard on the news this morning about this new law. It applies even to Canadians. Any non-US citizen driving in Florida must have an International Driving Permit. The official word is here:
Feb 14, 2013 6:53 AM
1Man, that could crimp car rentals in Florida big time...especially europeans, who are on average, far better drivers than Floridians...
Feb 14, 2013 7:03 AM
2Since the US is a party to an international convention about honoring other countries' drivers licenses, I wonder how Florida can do this. International relations is one thing reserved for the feds.
Feb 14, 2013 7:54 AM
3Some states' politicians seem to be unfamiliar with this part of Article VI of the Constitution. Maybe because it's towards the end and they haven't read that far.
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding."
Depending on the state, these days it's marijuana, health care, gay marriage, or gun laws they would like to nullify.
But I wouldn't want to be a foreign driver in Florida and try arguing constitutional issues with a cop.
Feb 14, 2013 7:59 AM
4It could also be Florida's way of trying to make life harder for illegal immigrants.
Feb 14, 2013 8:02 AM
Feb 14, 2013 8:46 AM
No treaties contradicted.
(Note, this is not to be seen as an endorsement of hte practice.)
Feb 14, 2013 2:23 PM
Feb 14, 2013 2:29 PM
8This indicates that the Florida Highway Patrol will not enforec the provison. It also notes that an international convention to which the US is a part will overcome state law.
Feb 14, 2013 2:37 PM
9The important question though IMO is whether rental agencies will require the permit. As of now, no rental agency I know of in the US require it (with the possible exception of Budget in Florida as mentioned in the article). But police may in theory require it, anywhere in the US (although in practice you should be fine, especially if you have a EU license and/or are courteous to the police).
And please distinguish between US citizen and resident :)
Feb 14, 2013 2:51 PM
10Canadian drivers found without the permit would technically be considered “driving without a valid licence,”
“My biggest concern is if we didn’t have one and we were in an accident or got a speeding ticket or whatever, and the insurance company says, ‘You were driving without a licence. We’re not going to cover the damage of your car,’ ”
I don't think an insurance company would say this, but if it's true it would be by far the biggest concern.
Feb 14, 2013 4:33 PM
The US does not enforce a country-wide standard, but instead leaves it up to the states:
There is no contradiction with the convention. It's a permitted restriction.
(Again, this is not an endorsement of the practice.)
Feb 14, 2013 7:06 PM
12I don't get it? The link in the OP's letter is referring to American drivers who may be traveling overseas. The text is written by AAA in order to convince people that they should pay AAA $15 for the privilege of having this piece of paper of dubious use. Contrary to the title of the opening "New Florida Law - International Driving Permit required for all foreigners". The link says nothing about this?
The automobile associations will push this because it is a cash cow for them, they get to collect and keep the money paid for these permits that mostly aren't needed or required.
Feb 14, 2013 8:02 PM
13This section was removed from that page a few hours after the OP:
Foreign Citizens Visiting Florida
If you will be visiting Florida and driving on a foreign driver license, as of January 1, 2013 you must have in your possession an International Driving Permit (IDP) issued by your country of residence and a valid license from that country. This applies to any vehicle, including rental vehicles. The IDP must be in the customer's name and from their country of residence. Again, this permit is only to be shown in conjunction with a valid driver license issued from your country, not as a substitute. You will need to contact the authorities in your country who issued your driver's license, or the motoring association there, to find out how to obtain an IDP. A listing of associations in foreign countries authorized to issue an IDP is provided for your reference, courtesy of the American Automobile Assn (AAA).
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