london 40 yrs laterpopping over to lon don for a quick view
Replies: 47 - Last Post: Feb 10, 2013 5:38 AM Last Post By: bellart1
Feb 8, 2013 2:01 AM
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Feb 8, 2013 4:08 AM
32Not all of them, some guards chose to go on the station side. There was no argument from the unions because there were no redundences. In a big organisation like LUL there is always an oppertunity for redeployment and natural vacancies within the company due to retirement etc... The unions argument is on a safety point of view as I said. As station staff is dimineshed they are not being replaced,,, leaving stations understaffed or in some outline stations unmanned.
Dont believe the hype that fully automated trains will bury the threat of any strikes ever happening. A member of staff will still have to be on the train and if that member of staff witholds their labour then the train wont run, as with the DLR in past disputes. It's all about saving money, a train accompnier or whatever they will call them will be on less money than what a driver is on at present...
Feb 8, 2013 4:25 AM
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Feb 8, 2013 5:33 AM
35"Dont believe the hype that fully automated trains will bury the threat of any strikes ever happening"
I think the hand holders that will captain automatic trains wont have nearly as much clout as driver. You would be able to train new ones up in 2 or 3 days.
All they will need to do is following a check list in case of an emergency.
Feb 8, 2013 4:30 PM
Feb 8, 2013 6:03 PM
Feb 9, 2013 2:55 AM
38Agreed, some do take the lock in approach when it comes to dealing with passenger emergencies such as fights and drunks etc, but on the whole the most take a hands on way of dealing with things. Detrainmment is quite rare considering how many millions of passenger journys are taken a week. If it's a signal problem then it's out of the drivers hands, it's the training and knowledge of how to fix defects and safely bypass faulty systems on the train that stops passengers stranded in tunnels on a daily basis. I'd like to know where the assistance comes from when a train is broken down in a deep tunnel section, do you think we wait for the AA to come??? Alex to be fair you dont really know what your talking about, you have just formed an opinion based on what you read in the Evening Standard. You cannot surely compare the DLR with the Tube. For starters on the DLR there is a walkway beside the track for passengers to walk should the worst come to the worst. Also a mechanic in a van can drive to the nearest access point and fix the train for the train captain. No such luxiouries for a tube driver,,, it's up to him to get the train moving again...
Feb 9, 2013 6:41 AM
39bellart - I'm the one who put up a post on the OT branch headed THEY ARE WATCHING ME! when I was in Kashgar, China, staying far too long (!) two doors away from a police station.
Funnily enough, my internet connection stopped suddenly dropping out after that.
Well, I did say that when/if they called round 'for a friendly chat' they'd be disappointed as I had nothing controversial on my computer or in emails. Guess they then put me down as just a silly old woman. :>)
This was just a check to see how much the TT mods really ARE moderating. And how much was just for show.
I've drawn their attention in no uncertain terms to two threads already; they put up my posting, but deleted one of them. With this one I'm just going to watch and wait.
Feb 9, 2013 6:45 AM
40Put into another posting just in case ..... the only post of mine that hasn't made it past the mods (so far) was one in which I said I know who the rat fink was who got the site closed down (I didn't name him or give any clues as to who he was). AND that I'm preparing an article for the travel press that will reveal all.
Now why do you suppose that one didn't make it onto the board?
Feb 9, 2013 9:21 AM
41Lets face it Bill the driver isn't the one that evacuates the passengers off the train. You know it, I know it. You know what has to be put in place to detrain the passenger.
You didn't comment on this http://www.standard.co.uk/news/tube-sItrike-caused-by-dispute-over-two-sacked-men-6750745.html. If the unions were so hot on safety then they would welcome the sacking of a driver sacked for infringing safety regs
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