working in USA summer camps do they pay for flights?
Replies: 8 - Last Post: Feb 3, 2013 4:21 PM Last Post By: LongIslandBob
Jan 29, 2013 9:56 PM
working in USA summer camps do they pay for flights?Hi,
I am wondering if anyone has worked in the summer camps and had their flights and transfers paid for and were paid by the camps a reasonable wage and not only $80 a week?
also without going through one of the agencies that charge upwards of $700 for "organising" the placement and then you have to pay for your flights and visa on top of that .
Is it possible to organise the placement through the camp directly and cut out the middle man that charges $700.
I would love to do it but it seems like a very expensive venture. any insights or recommendations appreciated.
Jan 30, 2013 6:09 AM
Jan 30, 2013 6:39 AM
2I've heard of agencies (in Ireland, Greece etc.) that place young travelers in summer jobs in various resort towns and amusement parks. I'm pretty sure the traveler pays is own airfare but they make enough money that folks keep doing it.
$80 a week doesn't sound like much for working at a camp. i guess it's okay if you are a first-year "counselor in training" but i'd expect more.
Jan 30, 2013 8:09 AM
Jan 30, 2013 8:31 AM
4List of camp counselor sponsors
Camp counselor employers must "Provide pay and benefits commensurate with those offered to their U.S. counterparts."
I looked at one company--CCUSA. They say that you have two flight options. You go on the flight they book--which they pay for. Or, you make your own flight arrangement and they give you extra money.
Wages depend on your age and the program.
For a 20 year old, working for 9 weeks, it's US$850 if you take their flight and $1550 if you make your own flight arrangements.
Those wages are in addition to food and lodging.
However, the up front application fees are higher if you use their flights. The application fees do not include the fee to get the US visa.
InterExchange and International Exchange of North America, Inc. will sponsor you for a visa if you negotiate your own job with a camp. There are fees for this. I didn't look at every sponsor to see if others will help you get a visa for a job you find o your own. Look for "direct placement" as a keyword.
Jan 30, 2013 9:19 AM
5Back in the early ‘80’s I had a blast as a counselor/swim teacher/lifeguard at a Boy Scout Camp. I was 14 or 15 and it was my first year so was labeled a “counselor in training.” Received $30 a week, which was about half the regular rate, plus room ( a bunk in a shared tent) and board (food in a dining hall as I supervised campers).
I HAVE to think that carracar’s numbers, which work out to $172 a week,
or the ones I found ($295/week minimum)
have to be reflective of the current pay rates. But yeah, if we assume a counselor-in-training makes half the regular rate, and carracar’s $172 is more accurate, then I guess $80 a week (including room and board but not including flight) is acceptable. Still it's at the low-end of the range, of the lowest numbers we can find.
The hours are long, but the work is fun. I was “on duty” at breakfast, and “on duty” at lunch and "on duty" all day long until taps was played around 9 pm.I don't know what my food or tent cost, but I doubt I made the legal minimum wage.
You have to take your duties seriously, you are an employee, not a camper, and campers can find all sorts of dumb ways to hurt themselves (arrows, horses, trees, firewood, fish hooks or just plain running and falling), so you have to be attentive constantly, but because I worked at the waterfront, my days were filled with swimming, fishing, canoeing etc.. The guys who worked in the nature center caught and handled snakes and turtles etc. all day long.
Whatever your thing is, summer camp is fun way to make some pocket money while doing what you love, and passing your knowledge on to the next generation.
Jan 31, 2013 6:58 AM
Feb 3, 2013 3:28 PM
7It can be very hard going directly through the camps. There is a lot of red tape associated with visa's and camps may not want to deal with it. There are several agencies that offer jobs in USA and Canada with kids camps and summer camps. The second time i was going back i thought about going directly through my camp but it is a massive hassle. Save the student has a nice comparison. I think kampspire has some reviews and ACA Camps has a great guide in general.If i was you i would go through an agency and just deal with the fee. Almost all camps give you free food, laundry and accommodation etc and the experience is priceless and rewarding. Regarding flights, you could take the agencies flights, or you could snap up a deal as soon as you find out the arrival dates for camp but agencies usually have affiliations with travel companies so it is usually cheaper. Best of luck its a wonderful experience!
Feb 3, 2013 4:21 PM
8Applying directly to the camps can presumably make the visa part a challenge. There may be any number of camps who have worked it out on their own (without an agent), but I'm out of the loop and can't name any off the top of my head, so finding an agent is probably a good idea.
Yes it is a wonderful experience. It's kind of like the Peace Corps "the toughest job you'll ever love."
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