Portuguese National in Brazil
Replies: 8 - Last Post: Aug 1, 2013 4:26 PM Last Post By: silbley
Jan 28, 2013 10:18 AM
Portuguese National in BrazilHi, I understand that this is probably not the place for this query, but I cant seem to find any info on this in English online.
Well the story is that I have just secured my Portuguese Citizen ID Card, (ancestry in Goa, India). I can now get an EU passport issued, however since my current nationality (India) will not allow me to hold 2 passports without giving up my Indian nationality, I need to think this over a great deal. However should I chose to get a Portuguese EU passport, Can I look for employment in Brazil. (I don't find Europe too appealing) By employment I'm not looking at a career or such, just some work to meet living expenses while I learn the Portuguese language in Brazil, for about 2 years or so, till such time that I get my Overseas Citizen of India documentation completed and then return to India to stay indefinitely on the basis of my OCI status.
Jan 28, 2013 11:47 AM
1No. As a Portuguese citizen you will be allowed to stay for ninety days with an extension of up to another 90 days. You will not receive any privilege in terms of living or working in Brazil. Unless you come to Brazil on a working visa it is unlawful for you to work in Brazil and you risk deportation. The authorities have started to become quite proactive about this.
So unless you have secured paid employment with a Brazilian or multinational firm prior to travelling you won't be spending two years hanging around in Brazil.
Jan 28, 2013 12:12 PM
2Thanks Djaima, Guess I got to think this over a lot more intently. I am loathe to staying a year and a half or so in Europe while the Govt. of India processes my OCI card.
Gotta find some place in the tropics that is a lot more Lusofonia friendly than Brazil.
Jan 28, 2013 12:57 PM
4Brazil is perfectly friendly to other members of the Lusofonia, it's just that there aren't many places around that world that will provide employment and an invitation to stay for an indefinite period to someone lobbing up on their doorstep. Same deal with most developed countries and many developing ones too, try this in the US or Australia for example.
As for the rest of the Lusofonia, well it's not exactly a huge range of choice. I'm not sure how you would go with Macao or Timor l'este, the closest two member countries to you. Angola has a reputation for being one of the most expensive places for an expat on the planet (oil boom). Good luck finding a job in Portugal, especially as you don't speak Portuguese to start with. Cabo Verde? Guiné-Bissau anyone?
Maybe renouncing your citizenship wasn't such a smart idea after all. Oh well, you live and learn.
Jan 28, 2013 8:19 PM
5Dj, I get the 'No employment for foreigners' bit. I remember reading somewhere some time ago that a number of Portuguese are seeking employment opportunities in Brazil with the active support of the Portuguese government, in fact it was suggested by the Portuguese President or such.
The other countries listed by you do not host an Indian mission on their soil, so it would be tough to work the Overseas Citizen of India bit there. So its either Brazil or the EU. Most likely the UK then.
(the only reason I'd like to hold the Portuguese passport is ease of travel, can travel to about 164 countries visa free or with visa on arrival as against the Indian passport which offers just 55 countries) Not that I plan on traveling to all of the 164!!
Jan 29, 2013 1:52 PM
6My Indian friend, who is a resident in Brazil, got American citizen last year. Then he put an apply for OCI on December, 20th at São Paulo city and got a okay this week. He has three options now where to live, but hasn't decided yet what to do. He told me that you need not to wait to put an apply for the OCI. Any Indian consulate will accept the apply, but it will cost more than one thousand dollars. Djalma has already described reality in black and white. Few words remain to be said. More than 50 thousand Portuguese came to Brazil during the second half of 2011, including all my wife's relatives that were living in Portugal for more than 10 years. Not with the help of the government of Portugal, but with the help of other Portuguese. My cousins are engineers in Germany and every day a bunch or Portuguese and Spaniard comes to beg for a job. Salary is not important for them, a job is. Be prepared for hard times out of your country. I wish you good luck
Jul 26, 2013 12:11 AM
It is now possible to process your OCI card in India itself, which negates the necessity of staying abroad while it is being processed. Great news for me as I can continue to live and work in India and have the travel benefits of an EU passport.
(I'm learning the Portuguese language by the way, completed Level 1 and start Level 2 next week)
Aug 1, 2013 4:26 PM
Glad to know that it's easier to get the OCI now. My friend came back to India. He called me up from Goa few days ago. Another friend, who is a writer, wrote about his experience living with a Brazilian (my) family for a while. It's on Malayalam language, so It was not possible to translate into Portuguese using Google. You can contact me on firstname.lastname@example.org if you have any doubts about Brazilian Portuguese.
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