Brazil trip: From Rio to Flori to Bolivia by buses?
Replies: 8 - Last Post: Jan 17, 2013 4:12 PM Last Post By: inaciomartinelli
Dec 14, 2012 10:49 PM
Myself and three other friends (all male) are doing 2 months in South America over the peak season from end of December through to the end of February. We are planning on spending about a month in Brazil and whilst trying not to rush it we are trying to see as much as we can on a budget.
We fly in to Rio after Christmas and spend a few days there including New Years so would love any recommendations of where to go that night or any other considering we are staying in the Botofoga area. We would definitely like to experience some of the amazing Rio nightlife but feel we may be part of a younger crowd at only 21?
After that we've booked accommodation in Ilha Grande for 4 days (is this a a good amount of time?) and after that we haven't booked but plan on going to Paraty for a few days and then on to Sao Paulo for only a day before transit to Florianopolis. I've heard Paraty is quite popular during this time of the year but is it still
In Flori we plan on staying in Barra de Lagoa as I have heard good reviews of the eastern beaches of Santa Catarina and the hostels there. And after all it is not very far from the main city of Florianopolis after all is it?
After that comes the trickier part where we will take a bus to Iguazu and after that do the Pantanal before crossing the border into Bolivia to continue our journey. Wanted to know which is the best major city (accessible by transit bus) to see the Pantanal from? We will most likely pass through Campo Grande from Iguazu and then on to Corumba to cross the border, but I wonder if it is worth the extra time in transit to go to Bonito to see the Pantanal from there. Also as it is the wet season are there chances the main roads will be flooded?
Sorry I know this is a long post but if anyone has any insights or comments on any one aspect of our trip it would be much appreciated. Particularly regarding bus trips between these major cities, i.e. how long, safe and expensive they generally are.
Thanks in advance,
Dec 15, 2012 7:52 AM
1For the last part of the Brazil leg of your trip, check for posts from the most knowledgable poster on the Pantanal "ericos". I know he has given detailed bus directions for Iguacu through Dourandos and into the Pantanal. And iirc, for getting Pantanal tours in Miranda and/or Buraco das Piranhas (on the road from Campo Grande to Corumba--see a detailed map) too. He has mentioned a few specific budget tour options. Bonito is a side trip, with diving and snorkling. (I'm just too lazy right now to do the search for you here on the forum for the specifics.)
Dec 15, 2012 8:36 AM
Dec 20, 2012 12:54 AM
Dec 21, 2012 7:16 AM
4"We would definitely like to experience some of the amazing Rio nightlife but feel we may be part of a younger crowd at only 21?"
Well, certainly there are clubs in Rio that cater to the ultra-rich young crowd (have to be rich for a Brazilian to afford the cover), playing house/hip-hop, etc. You'll also find a younger crowd at a baile funk in one of the favelas.
But Brazil is perhaps unique in having a national music, with some great performers. It is not unusual to see grandmothers and little kids, along with the rest of the family, at the same show, all singing along to words and melody they all know by heart from hearing it so often. No one feels left out because of age (but it's not Rafi nor is it Sinatra) with this Brazilian sound that defies you not to dance.
Do also check out the music that is unique to Rio. Go see a live samba band/singer in Lapa, perhaps at Scenaruim or Carioca da Gema (Check 'em out on YouTube), and watch the locals dance. You might also find a club with reggae or house in Lapa. On a busy night, just wander down the street listening. Or in other neighborhoods, check out one of the samba gafiera dance clubs like Elite or Estudantina.
Dec 22, 2012 5:12 AM
Dec 22, 2012 8:16 AM
6"Well, certainly there are clubs in Rio that cater to the ultra-rich young crowd (have to be rich for a Brazilian to afford the cover), playing house/hip-hop, etc."
You don´t need to be ultra-rich to find great things to do... don´t worry about it. Also don´t worry about your age, I´m 22 and I don´t have any problems in finding events with people of our age group.
Firstly I wouldn´t recommend Rio Scenarium, Carioca da Gema and Estudantina, because in these places you will find exactly what you don´t want to, older people.
Nowadays Gafieira Elite isn´t known for it´s samba parties. It has become a place that hosts a lot of rock parties, and events that mix brazilian music with foreign indie bands. It´s a very cheap place and it´s fun, sometimes.
Lapa is always a good choice, because there are lots of different clubs and bars in there... just walk around and see which place appeals to you.
Circo Voador and Fundição Progresso are two very famous venues located in the neighbourhood. In fact, in December 30th there will be a great party in Fundição Progresso... one of Rio´s most famous "carnival bands", called Bangalafumenga, will play there. You should check it...
If you prefer traditional nightclubs, the one that is most famous in Rio nowadays is called "Praia" and it´s located in Lagoa neighbourhood, only a short taxi drive from Botafogo. IMO, the best one in Rio is a club called "00" (zerozero), located in Gávea... also near Botafogo.
In Botafogo area there is the famous Bar Bukowski. Is a great option if you like rock music, however, go early (around 11 PM) because it gets very crowded on weekends. It´s located in Rua Álvaro Ramos, 270.
If you want to have some beers in Botafogo before you go out, there are a lot of bars at the end of Rua Voluntários da Pátria. It´s the most famous street in the neighbourhood, very easy to find.
If you want to experience something more "cultural", you should check a Samba School rehearsal. The most famous among tourists are the rehearsals of Mangueira and Salgueiro. Vila Isabel is also a great one, yet not very famous among foreigners.
Regarding to the NYE, the most famous party is in Copacabana Beach. There is a huge firework spectacle and lots of concerts in there.
You need to buy your metro tickets in advance because they aren´t sold in December 31st! Ask in your hostel about it, you need to choose the schedule of your travel. The metro is the best transport option from Botafogo to Copacabana in the NYE... or you can go walking (it´s not far, depending in which Botafogo area you will be). Buses will be too crowded and taxis will overcharge you (if you can find an empty one).
If you don´t want to go to the beach, there are a lot of parties around the city. But they are very expensive, at least R$ 400 (with drinks included).
Don´t miss the Christmas Tree in Lagoa Rodrigo de Freitas (lagoon). It is removed in the first week of January... go at night to take some good pics!
Here´s a photo of it:
When exactly are you arriving and leaving? With this, I can tell you if there are more events during your stay.
Enjoy it! Any doubts, just ask.
Dec 22, 2012 8:32 AM
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