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They're both just opinions, which is what OP asked for. I am not telling anybody how to spend their time. But i do respond when people say 'How do you think I should spend my time?'
#13, good call on the general itinerary.
Before people can help with names of hotels, you should determine where you want to stay (e.g. what part of Madrid and where in Southern Spain). You should also provide a budget in Euros per room per night.
Have you already bought a guidebook? Get a good guidebook to Spain and start reading it. Lots of answers will be there. For hotel, also check sites like www.booking.com to get an idea what you can get for a certain budget.
I didn't call you a name in #7, that was an adjective.
The next step is to read a guide book (eg LP Spain) and decide which places sound most interesting.If your fiancée loves museums then Madrid is a great place..some of the best in the world.
Post some more specific questions on here when you have read the basics....
Posts 1 and 2 point out the problems with the original idea...ie that there isn't enough time to comfortably see much of both countries,not even the highlights...particularly on a honeymoon ;-)
Anyone who knows these countries knows that is true......
I see it as a service to point this out to the OP (indeed he seems to see it that way himself).
Far more useful than telling him he can have his cake AND eat it......
Split your stay in Madrid in a few days at the start and a few days at the end. It is much relaxing to know that you can reach your return plane within an hour from your hotel, than that you have to travel from far and have some possibly tricky connections to make to be on time.
And, while in Madrid, don't forget the Escorial. It's a nice day trip, easily done by the Cercanía, the suburban train network. And don't forget not to go to the much advertised Valle de los Caídos, which, contrary to the official story, glorifies the infamous Franco regime, unless, of course, you want to see how the infamous Franco regime glorified itself.
I've seen plenty of posts from Aussies and Europeans wanting to come to America and spend 3 days in LA then fly to NYC for 3 days then go to Vegas for 2 days and hit the beach in Miami and driving through Yosemite. SAME S^%$
That is not the same as the misconception of thinking you can visit a whole country in 2 days in any meaningful way. You cannot compare the US with Europe in that way, given that the population density and historical development of the latter has resulted in a much higher number as well as more variation in sights.
P.S. if you really need to use foul language, at least have the guts to write them out in full.
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Aibriham, also see Toledo. For Southern Spain if that's the area you're concentrating on think about an apartment or villa rental. Generally cheaper than a hotel and more space, more private, especially for honeymooners.16
MTL, the only good advice you gave was the possibility of an open jaw ticket, otherwise you're cocky on your perception of Americans and how one should spend their time.
right. So when i say 'stay in Spain' it's not helpful, but when you say 'Go to Morocco' it is? They're both just opinions, which is what OP asked for. I am not telling anybody how to spend their time. But i do respond when people say 'How do you think I should spend my time?'
One thing thats annoying with these message boards and I've been on a few, not my first. The helpful responders love to dissect your trip, dissect anyone else who gives advice and tries to trump them, basically a battle of the most brilliant world traveler.
I think the argument here started with your post #7 in which you condescendingly started calling people names. So maybe it's a matter fo what goes around, comes around with your experience on boards? You reap what you sow...#13, good call on the general itinerary.
Before people can help with names of hotels, you should determine where you want to stay (e.g. what part of Madrid and where in Southern Spain). You should also provide a budget in Euros per room per night.
Have you already bought a guidebook? Get a good guidebook to Spain and start reading it. Lots of answers will be there. For hotel, also check sites like www.booking.com to get an idea what you can get for a certain budget.
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MTL, the difference is I say go to Morocco if that is what you want to do, others strictly give advice based on what they want to do not factoring in what the OP is really wanting. I see that so much.I didn't call you a name in #7, that was an adjective.
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OP...good decision.The next step is to read a guide book (eg LP Spain) and decide which places sound most interesting.If your fiancée loves museums then Madrid is a great place..some of the best in the world.
Post some more specific questions on here when you have read the basics....
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GBFPosts 1 and 2 point out the problems with the original idea...ie that there isn't enough time to comfortably see much of both countries,not even the highlights...particularly on a honeymoon ;-)
Anyone who knows these countries knows that is true......
I see it as a service to point this out to the OP (indeed he seems to see it that way himself).
Far more useful than telling him he can have his cake AND eat it......
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The itinerary you can best find out for yourself. Make a list of the things you absolutely don't want to miss. Get a map to get a rough idea what the best route would be. Go to www.renfe.com to see which order gives the best travelling. And then fill out with things you can do from the places you plan to stay.Split your stay in Madrid in a few days at the start and a few days at the end. It is much relaxing to know that you can reach your return plane within an hour from your hotel, than that you have to travel from far and have some possibly tricky connections to make to be on time.
And, while in Madrid, don't forget the Escorial. It's a nice day trip, easily done by the Cercanía, the suburban train network. And don't forget not to go to the much advertised Valle de los Caídos, which, contrary to the official story, glorifies the infamous Franco regime, unless, of course, you want to see how the infamous Franco regime glorified itself.
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All good suggestions. If you are going to spend the majority of the time in So. Spain think about renting an apt or villa. You still could take the ferry from Algeciras to Tangier, 2 hours, day trip or overnight, latter is better. Though Tangier isn't the best for seeing Morocco but would at least give the flavor of it, if you want to go back for a more comprehensive trip in the future. Never a bad thing.25
and not every American gets 2 weeks vacation. I get 4 weeks so does my boyfriend.29
Melissajordan, to quote another post of yours: what the f&^%? what is your problem? Why did you sign up on this forum anyway, if all you do is whine about the behaviour of regular forum users. Have you got any relevant information to contribute?I've seen plenty of posts from Aussies and Europeans wanting to come to America and spend 3 days in LA then fly to NYC for 3 days then go to Vegas for 2 days and hit the beach in Miami and driving through Yosemite. SAME S^%$
That is not the same as the misconception of thinking you can visit a whole country in 2 days in any meaningful way. You cannot compare the US with Europe in that way, given that the population density and historical development of the latter has resulted in a much higher number as well as more variation in sights.
P.S. if you really need to use foul language, at least have the guts to write them out in full.
