Is 'experience' more prized than 'luxury' in your travels?
Replies: 32 - Last Post: Dec 10, 2012 1:45 AM Last Post By: piaczka
Dec 4, 2012 5:54 AM
What you're saying about Botton's book is also the common trend in travelling these days. People, irrespecitve of their age, look for real experiences with local people involved. That's been common too for quite a few years among all sorts of backpackers wanting to volunteer, attend language classes or tango schools, stay in ashrams, etc, where they do, or hope to have more chances to interact with different culture and local people.
Dec 4, 2012 6:01 AM
16Piaczka, I'm convinced that what you describe, about meeting other people, is a big part of his article. Because I'm sensitive to it, I took away the part about insulating ourselves from the very thing we're hoping to experience as deeply as we can - a new 'exotic' place we're visiting.
So I thought he was saying that luxury travel, tour group travel, etc. are so insulating that travelers are looking for new approaches. Personally, I think back to a thatched bar on a paradise beach on a remote (and delicious) Thai island not so long ago, where every traveller there was eyes glued to macbook or ipad doing something undoubtedly important like blogging or photoshopping or being connected. I'm a semi-retired techie so I got nothing against electronics, but I thought there was something wrong with this picture, something going on there that just escaped me.
Maybe I'm seeing this wrong, but I thought de Botton's article addressed these kinds of travel images.
Dec 4, 2012 6:01 AM
Dec 4, 2012 6:08 AM
I couldn't resist to put in this link again
Dec 4, 2012 6:15 AM
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Dec 4, 2012 11:53 AM
24Advertising repeatedly suggests luxury is an/the experience, some buy it, most don't.
It doesn't take much travel to see the greater the level of luxury the more isolated and
insulated you become from the environment you journeyed to see. For the majority of
the world's population the concept of traveling simply for pleasure and enjoyment is an
unaffordable luxury in and of itself. Eschewing luxury is my luxury.
Dec 6, 2012 11:22 AM
25If this writer thinks Amsterdam is "exotic"... there is a problem...
Almost all of the places he finds "interesting" are in the West... I mean Switzerland...?
I try to get away from places that are familiar... Less Jesus...more Buddha and Shiva...
Travel is intensely personal...you only get out of it...what you take into it...not one bit more...the same trip can be totally different experiences to the people on the journey...
To the extent that the writer is talking about an "inner journey" into self...? Why travel at all...
Just stay home and build a cabin in the woods like Thoreau did...
Thoreau never got more than 20 miles from Concord Mass...for 95% of his life...
But at the same time...the 1850's .... Wallace was rounding the Horn to the Dutch Indies.... or struggling with disease and hardships trekking in the jungles of Amazonia...!!
Who was the greater traveler...?
Dec 7, 2012 1:13 AM
26#25: of the two you mention I couldn't say, but these come high on my list of greatest travelers:
and how could I fail to commend the intrepid and indefatigable Dervla Murphy? Wonder where she is traveling now?
Dec 7, 2012 1:23 AM
Dec 8, 2012 8:55 PM
28Some people want to see places but are afraid to venture off on their own or feeling insecure about not having hotels booked throughout their trip. They need to go on tours and they like luxury and brag about that. It's not for me but who am I to judge? At least they go there and have an experience even if it is limited.
But, travellers who are so plugged into their computers, i-pads and mobile phones miss out too. They stop meeting people and seeing where they are. Some of them act like sheep and would rather go to a dirty resturant that serves crappy food where other travellers go then venture to somewhere where locals go.
Dec 9, 2012 1:14 AM
29I know what you mean majortraveller about travellers being so hooked to computers. That brings back memories of trudging through the streets of Hanoi some twelve years ago with our (then) 12 -year- old son, each of us lugging our backpack and walking by little internet shops where we saw all these young people so focused on the computers they were typing away at that they didn't seem to notice the exotic world around them. In some cases, we'd walk by later in the day and still see some of them there..
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