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Wrong Calculation in Schengen Visa

Replies: 64 - Last Post: Mar 30, 2013 3:36 PM Last Post By: travelinstyle46

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ansh_jain_97

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Nov 26, 2012 5:33 PM
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Yes.

TheDevil

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Nov 27, 2012 2:50 AM
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So do you mean that we book return flights and accommodations and after obtaining visa we cancel them ?

Yes the consulate where I got a Schengen visa for my wife actually recommended to do this.
Get flight tickets and hotel reservations that can be canceled and fully refunded (mostly the expensive option) Cancel them after you got the visa and then get cheap tickets.

jayanraj

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Nov 27, 2012 7:37 AM
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Oh ! that's why some Schengens / embassies / consulates require non-refundable flights and pre-paid accommodations reservations. Now I know.

No wonder Indians are so infamous in world.

hkl

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Mar 29, 2013 12:37 PM
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travelinstyle46,
I have always been using your interpretation, but here is a German embassy's link which says something different:
http://www.kuwait.diplo.de/Vertretung/kuwait/en/01/Visabestimmungen/Visabestimmungen.html so there maybe a hope for the OP if even embassies are not clear on that point.
Besides that I find the usage of the terms '180 days' and '6 months' interchangeably as very inexact for an issue that seems to be taken painfully exact. 6 months are not the same as 180 days even if I don't know what is meant by 6 months: 183 days? 6 calendar months beginning on the 1st of a month? A period beginning on any day and ending on day-1 of the (month+6) modulo 12?

If you wanted to comply to all possible interpretation you would have to use 90 out of 210 rolling days as the most conservative and safest option.

travelinstyle46

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Mar 30, 2013 3:33 PM
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It is 90 days in any 180 calendar day period hkl. No way to get to 210 days rolling.

They say on that embassy site that you can re-enter in a second 180 day period if you have left for at least one day. That I totally disagree with. There is no question that Embassies, airport Immigration,etc. all get things wrong sometimes and this simply appears to me to be one of those times.

If you search you will find examples online of people who have run afoul of the Schengen rule and had problems as a result.

If you use common sense, it would tell you that being able to leave for 1 day and then return for 90 days is ridiculous. Why not then just say 180 in 360 days is the rule? If it were true that people can leave for 1 day and then return, what would be the point? If someone is illegally working how would making them leave for 1 day help? It simply makes no sense.

If you are really interested, try reading this thread: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2002536

But I can tell you now, (if you want to save reading all that thread) there is no doubt the rule is 90 days in a rolling 180 day period. That it is incorrectly interpreted and applied in some cases is also not in doubt.
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