Will a Schengen Ban Affect my Future?
Replies: 9 - Last Post: Nov 19, 2012 1:11 AM Last Post By: abalada
Nov 17, 2012 5:28 PM
Will a Schengen Ban Affect my Future?Hello,
I recently received a 5-year Schengen ban for overstaying my resident permit by 3-4 weeks (I was a student at a university and they had all my documents, so I couldn't leave the country before I got my documents back, which took time and therefore I overstayed).
Right now I am considering to study in the USA or UK, however I'm not sure whether I'll be granted a visa to go there.. Also, what if I applied for a tourist visa (just to visit and check out the Uni programs before I commit)?
Would I be granted the visa in either case or not? Does my Schengen ban affect my chances of getting a US/UK visa? Should I wait for a few years before trying to apply for a visa (I received my ban in October 2012, so it's very recent).
Nov 17, 2012 8:47 PM
Nov 17, 2012 10:47 PM
2Whether you would be granted a visa or not will depend on many factors and is something no one here would be able to answer accurately.
Unfortunately your visa overstay may affect the decision made by American, British etc post as well when it comes to granting visas. They may think that you might overstay in the US, UK as well. Waiting may not help; your history won't get erased.
Do you have a letter from your university that it wasn't your fault? It may help...
Nov 17, 2012 10:53 PM
3As always, this depends on the immigration officers. But I can tell you that UK immigration is very strict and I'm sure at the least you'll have a lot of explaining to do.
I've been with a group of US citizens, taking them from France to the UK, when two of them couldn't immediately produce their SOFA card ( stating that as military they could stay long term). The officer counted the days, concluded they had overstayed in Schengen, so they would also not pay attention to the law in the UK and was going to deny them entry. After a frantic search in their pockets and handbags they found some letters which clearly stated they were military. Only then were they allowed to enter the UK.
This was not the only time I witnessed problems at British immigration, but the only time the officer spoke openly - someone who didn't heed the Schengen rules is suspected of also not heeding the British rules.
Nov 17, 2012 11:59 PM
4Why you want to study in the UK or US is a bit beyond me, given the excessively high cost of doing so in these particular countries.
The US won't care. However, the UK might, given it's linked into the Schengen computer system after it signed the Treaty of Amsterdam in 1997.
Still, if you don't try, you won't find out.
Nov 18, 2012 3:20 AM
Nov 18, 2012 3:30 AM
6Here is an example in reverse; however the OP hasn't updated what happened after his trip to the embassy.
Nov 18, 2012 4:20 AM
Nov 18, 2012 6:29 AM
Nov 19, 2012 1:11 AM
Quote "Although the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom have not signed the Schengen Agreement Application Convention, they take part in Schengen co-operation under the terms of the Treaty of Amsterdam, ..."
Thus the Schengen ban may well have effects on applying for an UK visa.
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