Replies: 46 - Last Post: Nov 19, 2012 10:56 PM Last Post By: tools4fools
Nov 14, 2012 5:42 AM
Nov 14, 2012 6:16 AM
Light leakage - gives nice ambiance?
Maybe you should try a Holga camera in that case.
Absolutely not my cup of tea, I like my images sharp and technically as good as possible. Start out with a good image. Can mess around or mess it up later on myself in digital dark room if I wish too, but better to have a good image to begin with.
But then other folks like the imperfection of Holgas and love it.
Nov 14, 2012 7:43 AM
32i like the fallacy of the "good image"
this seems to imply the best raw image possible is a stable video of a few minutes of infinite resolution of unlimited depth of field of unlimited dynamic range that has a 360 degree spin (w/ pitch) from every point within 5 meters... and then hunt down in fill in the blank app for the perfect 2d representation.
Nov 14, 2012 1:44 PM
33One of the things I like about film and I guess why some digital shooters purchase manual focus digital camera rangefinders, they enjoy their toys. It's not just the result but about that journey as well. They take their time, they can meet up with labs or DIY darkroom. Choose their film, apply filters on the camera itself. To me it's like an exciting adventure. And film cameras are a lot cheaper these days including top end stuff like Hasselblads even.
And ... I think that when printed and observed there isn't much difference between the two. Unless it was low light shooting or things like economy if you shoot a lot. But I'm happy to pump out 25 images per day. For me anyway some images (not all) there may be a film look. A decent scanner could pick the grain out of 50 speed film while at least with my 6MP DSLR the grain isn't there, some of the details like on the road or grass may be smoothed out too which might give the impression digital is sharper, smoother at least the perpendicular lines like buildings are sharper.
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Nov 14, 2012 1:47 PM
Nov 14, 2012 1:54 PM
35I live in New Zealand, so the film stuff like slides are 2x or 3x as B&H so I import them. B/w film about the same thou, color negative maybe 20% more. But there are a few stores in NZL too that I can purchase film, at least in the larger photography stores. Over here, we could get consumer 35mm film in the supermarkets. But if we wanted even professional 35mm film we had to go to the real photography stores (not minilabs). But I think that over here, the two minilabs in our local mall has shut for some yrs now and I don't know any film minilabs either. Over at the other malls, they may be digital kiosk labs for say memory cards, USBs etc .. and they may print you a t-shirt or that coffee mug. But for those keen film snappers even casual, it's surely doable. Probably need a trip into the CBD though.
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Nov 14, 2012 2:00 PM
Nov 14, 2012 2:11 PM
37I have been reading Practical Photography magazines, surely you guys have a lot of resources than us. Jessops kinda expensive, not? Is it photography warehouse or something ... usually at the 2nd half of the magazine - the one that uses Andy Rouse as a billboard figure. Freestyle may charge only $6-8US per delivery and you get access to USA prices but it might be a tad more than B&H, at least they don't charge $45US per delivery. Edit - might be "warehouse express"/.
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Nov 14, 2012 2:35 PM
Nov 16, 2012 4:36 AM
39Just incase any of you are interested, here is my film camera collection (-1 my pentax p30t)
i'll try get a photo later of all my cameras, including my canon 50d, nikon d7000 and various other things like several lenses :)
Nov 16, 2012 4:52 AM
Nov 19, 2012 1:40 PM
41that's the part that nobody discusses about film photographers... they own lots of cameras. in the past decade the internet has crashed prices most things. and for the higher end stuff, the internet makes it pretty liquid to buy and sell, cheaper than a rental as long as you don't drop it in the ocean.
it is a sickness... (mamiya 645 super; pro; 45/2.8; 80/2.8; 80/1.9; mamiya press; 90/2.8; 65/6,3; leica m6ttl; 28/2 asph; 35/1.4; 50/2; minolta cle; olympus om1; om4; 21/2; 28/2; 35/2; 50/1.4; 50/1.8; 85/2; 100/2 ED; 135/2.8; 65-200/4; 75-150/4; ricoh gr1; olympus stylus; holga 120N; holga 120 PAN... and for some of those things i own multiples; most of them have been on one trip or another in the past year)
Nov 19, 2012 5:40 PM
42I have been looking at a Hasselblad. Seems to be they are not worth it. A Bronica SQ (6x6) could be had for $300 or less and lenses are $250 or under $200. They are PS lenses which means they were distributed from 1996 to about the mid 2000s before the Bronica went under. The Hasselblad at its cheapest $400 but it is a 1970s model (probably) and so are the lenses unless you really fork up to the around the $1,000 pricetag.
Nov 19, 2012 7:39 PM
Nov 19, 2012 8:11 PM
44If you plant to actually use a Hasselblad and Hassy lenses, make sure that the leaf shutters have not stuck. After a long period of disuse the oils dry out and the shutter either refuses to operate or the exposure times are totally unreliable. Cameras with focal plane shutters are more reliable in this sense, and there is only one shutter mechanism to service.
I have used and owned Hassleblads, Mamiya RZ67, Pentax 67, several Mamiya 6x6 and 6x7 rangfinders, Contax G series, Minolta CLE, Olympus OM-1 to OM-4ti, a pile of Voiglanders etc etc not to mention most pro 35mm bodies form Canon, Nikon and Minolta starting from the seventies. Still there is not enough nostalgia in them for me to have kept them. They were tools for me, some better, some not so good. My present system of Nikon D4/D800 and Fuji X-Pro1 can do everything better.
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