(I'm new here) Hoping to get some answers about my situation? [:
Replies: 7 - Last Post: Nov 10, 2012 10:17 AM Last Post By: 1ouise
Nov 8, 2012 1:41 AM
(I'm new here) Hoping to get some answers about my situation? [:(I posted a topic earlier but I'm not sure where it went, sorry if this becomes a double post!)
Hi! I'm a 23 year old US citizen & my boyfriend (whom I met online in 2009) is a UK citizen.
I went to the UK in November of 2011 to visit my boyfriend and I was granted a 6 week tourist visa, though at the time of this visit we were only just establishing our relationship and I told the immigration officer that he was just a friend whom I hoped to engage in a relationship with if we got along. Also, at the time of this visit I had been working at the same place for two years and had a letter from my employer that I was scheduled to be back at work on December 14th 2011.
I just started a new job in August and my trip (which I haven't booked yet) will be scheduled for March 5th - March 26th 2013 that's three weeks. I'm worried I don't have enough ties to my country and that I'll be denied entry. I go to college for nursing completely online at the moment, and I do work part time I live with my father, whose retired and helps me pay for everything so that's how I'm able to afford costly trips to visit my boyfriend.
Anyway - I'm worried I'll be denied entry because :
1. He's my BOYFRIEND. I heard that this would raise red flags but I don't like lying - it makes me nervous & I'm a terrible liar.
2. My boyfriend is on benefits, he doesn't work & last time the immigration agent stated that they had a lot of people coming over and marrying UK citizens who are on benefits and that she didn't approve of our relationship (but she let me into the country anyway).
3. I haven't worked at my part - time job long enough for it to be a reason to return (I'll have worked here for ~7 months when I do go visit) & I go to school but it's all online.
When I do go visit I'd have a round trip ticket purchased at least 3 months in advance, a letter from my employer stating that I'm scheduled back for work on the 27th, proof I do attend college (even though it's online), proof that I do have enough funds to provide for myself for the 3 weeks I'm there for (it'll be a bank statement & I'll have around $4k USD in my checking account).
With all this do you think I'd still be denied entry? Also, do I need to apply for a visitors visa since my sole purpose for coming in to the country is to visit my boyfriend we won't be doing much site seeing as we did last time when I came into the country on a tourist visa.
Any help or advice is appreciated! Thanks [:
Nov 8, 2012 2:12 AM
1You need to demonstrate funds and proof of return. You could an apartment or house leasing agreement to the list above and anything like car leasing or purchasing agreements.
You should disclose you are visiting your boyfriend. I don't see why you would say he is on benefits.
At the end of the day it is the individual officer's decision and all you can do is get all your ducks in a row.
Just because you are not doing tourist stuff doesn't mean you shouldn't apply for a tourist visa.
Nov 8, 2012 2:25 AM
Nov 8, 2012 4:21 AM
3Agree with #1, Mark.
(However, something for you and your boyfriend to ponder on. If your relationship goes beyond boyfriend/girlfriend and you eventually want to settle as a married couple in the UK then be aware that your boyfriend, as a sponsor, will need to be employed on at least £18,600 / annum gross. Or have some substantial savings set aside. These rules were implimented 9th july this year. Expect the figure quoted to rise annually.)
Nov 8, 2012 5:05 PM
4I'm not an expert by any means, but... from my own experience...
Concern 1 -- be honest, but don't give away more information than is needed. The conversation will probably go something like this (judging by my experience, and the experiences that I've heard of others):
Immigration Officer: "What is the purpose of your visit?"
You: "I'm on vacation."
Immigration Officer: "Do you know anyone in the country?"
You: "Yes" (leave it at that, unless they ask for clarification)
Immigration officer: "Is that person your boyfriend?"
You: "Yes" (be honest)
They do NOT care if you're dating someone in the country. They just care about you obeying their laws, and leaving when you're supposed to. This was told to me by a UK immigration officer the last time I went there.
Keep your answers short, to the point, and be honest.
2. I don't really have any idea how that would affect your visit. You will have a hard time obtaining a fiance visa/spouse visa if you intend to marry him and try to relocate though, unless his circumstances change. But that is not something you need to worry about for this visit.
3. I don't think it matters how long you've worked at your job. On one of my visits, I worked at a part time job for a limited time. On another visit, I had a letter from my then-future (now current) employer stating that I was due to start work there in a month. No problems at all. I also was an online student the first time I went to visit -- again, no problems at all.
As for what you're bringing, you should be okay. If you're staying with him though, you will want to bring a letter of invitation from him, just in case they ask for it. Also, as I was told the last time I went...even if you stay with him, make sure that you still have enough money in your bank account to show that you can support yourself if you need to stay at a hotel instead (an immigration officer advised me of this, so it seems like pretty solid advice to me).
As for applying for a visitors visa... No, you don't need to. You're still a general visitor, and so you're still eligible under the VWP. I actually asked the immigration officer last time if applying for a visa would make traveling easier; he said there was absolutely no need for me to do that just for short visits.
Nov 8, 2012 5:10 PM
5And as 1 said, yes, it's up to the individual immigration officer. You SHOULD be okay as long as you bring all your documentation with you, but that's not to say that an immigration officer will find something to be concerned about. If you act nervous, you're more likely to trigger such a reaction.
My first trip, I was told to sit down for a little while until the immigration officer had more time. I got emotional. I started crying during questioning, and that made things VERY awkward. The immigration officer told me several times that one of the reasons she got concerned was because I was acting SO nervous and emotional.
The next time, I was again told to sit down for a little while until the immigration officer had more time. That time, I sat down quietly, pulled out my book and started reading. Took 2 minutes of questioning for the officer to say that he didn't see a single reason to be concerned about my visit.
Nov 8, 2012 5:18 PM
6Another thought I had...
Someone mentioned "I don't know why you'd mention that he's on benefits". Really, I don't either.
However, on one of my visits I was asked what my partner did in the UK. At the time, he was job hunting. I responded simply with, "he's currently unemployed." The answer I got? "Okay. May I see your flight information, please?"
Nov 10, 2012 10:17 AM
7When I do go visit I'd have a round trip ticket purchased at least 3 months in advance, a letter from my employer stating that I'm scheduled back for work on the 27th, proof I do attend college (even though it's online), proof that I do have enough funds to provide for myself for the 3 weeks I'm there for (it'll be a bank statement & I'll have around $4k USD in my checking account).
I think with all of that you'll be fine.
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