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Suicide rate in Switzerland and Finland

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landofsnows

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Nov 5, 2012 5:27 AM
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Suicide rate in Switzerland and Finland

Why is the above so high in these wonderful countries?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

iviehoff

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Nov 5, 2012 6:44 AM
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I would imagine:
Switzerland: Assisted dying is legal, so many of the suicides are of terminally ill people, who just have to suffer on in other countries
Finland: High rate of depressive illness due in part to long dark cold winters, which causes seasonal affective disorder in some portion of the population. See also similar high rankings for other Baltic states and Russia.

landofsnows

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Nov 5, 2012 10:25 AM
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I have been to Switzerland twice, people seem pretty high strung. But I might be wrong.

PrincessOfPenguins

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Nov 5, 2012 11:27 AM
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High rate of depressive illness due in part to long dark cold winters, which causes seasonal affective disorder in some portion of the population. See also similar high rankings for other Baltic states and Russia.

More like alcoholism, and in Russia and its former republics alcoholism plus poverty...

And yeah, the Swiss are pretty high strung. All that money and nothing else...

johnthefinn

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Nov 6, 2012 4:04 AM
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You ought to learn the difference between Switzerland and Sweden, #4.

Finland and Switzerland place 16th and 19th on the list, well below several other European countries. So what makes you think their rates are high?

jedgerandclyde

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Nov 6, 2012 1:12 PM
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Isn't Sweden in Scandinavia #5?........................Please do not give me lectures on the difference of countries, OK?

These stats of suicide rates are not mine, and i don't know why you should ask me about them they are of course the OP's, as stated i only came on here to try to explain why the reason of the winters effect on the mind in climates in all Scandinavian countries, and as is one of the reasons that people trying to understand the reason for suicides, as i have stated in all the Scandinavian countries.

And to me the TV Movie is the best example of the effect on the mind that the scarce population, the isolation and cold and darkness can have, no matter what country it is set in, is not it the same weather wise in the north of Finland as it is in North of Sweden?

landofsnows

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Nov 6, 2012 6:42 PM
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The statistics comes from Wikipedia, not OP. They are not 100% accurate anything

landofsnows

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Nov 6, 2012 6:43 PM
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I meant "ANYWAY'

iviehoff

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Nov 7, 2012 12:39 AM
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The statistics comes from Wikipedia
Wikipedia sources them to the World Health Organisation. WHO in turn sources them to internal health sources in each country.

I tend to suspect that high rates of alcoholism have a common cause with a high rate of suicide, rather than being a separate cause.

I should have mentioned that in the case of Switzerland there is "suicide tourism". Because almost uniquely assisted dying is legal there, people deliberately travel there in order to commit suicide. I would expect this makes a significant increment to the suicide rate.

landofsnows

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Nov 7, 2012 12:59 AM
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Internal health sources in Asian countries tend to play it down in order to save 'face'. They are probably higher in reality

jedgerandclyde

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Nov 7, 2012 2:05 AM
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The stats do of course come from the OP, and via Wikipedia, but why do you blame myself for them #5?

Raki_Man

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Nov 7, 2012 2:08 AM
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Many gloomy people in Finland!

You would be gloomy too if you had to cope with the Finnish language!

johnthefinn

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Nov 7, 2012 3:58 AM
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Sweden is indeed in Scandinavia, but this post is entitled "Suicide rate in Switzerland and Finland". It is not lecturing to point out a crass piece of ignorance.

#12, I learned Finnish as an adult, so I can tell you that it is no harder for English-speakers than English is for Finns. Finns just like to exaggerate the difficulty of their language.

landofsnows

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Nov 7, 2012 4:26 AM
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A couple of years ago, while I was working with the Koreans, I stumbled upon this link due to their high suicide rate. And recently while sorting through my old links, I noticed certain patterns.

That's why I was asking.

PrincessOfPenguins

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Nov 7, 2012 4:29 AM
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I remember reading that aside from Christmas, most suicides in this part of the world happen during the summer months. This was a while ago so I'd have to look it up again...
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