Plumbing in Zurich
Replies: 9 - Last Post: Nov 4, 2012 3:12 AM Last Post By: neckervd
Nov 2, 2012 1:38 PM
Plumbing in ZurichHi all,
I am trying to gather as much information as possible before I take the leap of emigrating from South Africa to Switzerland .
I am a qualified plumber with 7 years experience, I am trying to find some kind of information, does anyone know if the demand in my trade is great in Zurich ? Do you know what kind of pay a typical maintenance plumber can get?
I've tried recruiters and general google and have landed no where fast.
Does anyone know a good website to find work In Switzerland as a plumber?.
Thanks for all your help
Nov 2, 2012 6:02 PM
1Not really a travel related question Marcello. BTW welcome on the board.
Do you mean the type of plumbers famous from the Watergate issue?
In that case some govenments, like Greece and Germany, will like to use your services and skills to do some work in the UBS, Crédit Suisse and/or De Rothschield building in Zürich.
BTW2. Do you ,meet the emigration rules? Pretty tough in Switzerland
Nov 2, 2012 7:30 PM
There are a lot of expat forums for most European countries, I picked this one because it had the working info link...
Switzerland in addition to being tough on emigration is also a very expensive place to live...
but nothing wrong with checking out possibilities, yes?
Nov 3, 2012 3:28 AM
3You can probably enter Switzerland as a tourist. But if you want to work there, you will need a working permit.
Switzerland has a dual system for granting foreign nationals access to the Swiss labour market. Persons from EU or EFTA member states, regardless of their qualifications, are granted easy access to the Swiss labour market under the Agreement on the Free Movement of Persons. By decree of the Federal Council, workers from all other states – third states, as they are referred to – are admitted in limited numbers to the labour market in Switzerland, if they are well qualified. Experience has shown that this category of workers has a better chance of professional and social integration than less qualified persons.
The criteria for admittance are contained in the Federal Act on Foreign Nationals (AuG) and in the Decree on Admittance, Residence and Employment (VZAE). They are explained in further detail in the directives on the implementation of the Foreign Nationals Act.
So that applicants understand the requirements for obtaining a work permit from the Swiss authorities and are therefore able to submit a comprehensive and well-documented application, the most important access requirements are summarized below.
The following information applies to all sectors. For certain sectors, however, the requirements regarding personal qualifications are regulated in more detail, there is information on minimum wages and working conditions, and on exceptions to the access requirements. This additional information is contained in point 4.7 of the directives. More information on where to submit applications and on procedures is available under “procedure”.
(Art. 21 AuG)
Third state nationals may only be admitted if a person can not be recruited from the labour market of Switzerland or another EU/EFTA member state. Swiss citizens, foreign nationals with a longterm residence permit or a residence permit allowing employment, as well as all citizens from those countries with which Switzerland has concluded the Free Movement of Persons Agreement (at present, the EU and EFTA states) are given priority. Employers must prove that they have not been able to recruit a suitable employee from this priority category, despite intensive efforts.
Vacant positions must be registered with the Regional Employment Offices (RAV) together with a request to register the vacancy in the European Employment System (EURES = the European Union’s Employment Services cooperation network). Once a potential employee has been put in contact with the employer and subsequently turned down, the employers generally rereceive a questionnaire in which they can state the reasons the potential employee was not hired.
Moreover, the employer must explain to the authorities why the search for a suitable candidate by means of the recruitment channels used in the specific industry, such as specialist journals, employment agencies, online job listings or corporate websites, etc., was not successful. Suitable proof includes job advertisements in newspapers, written confirmation from employment agencies, or other kinds of documentation. Often it is helpful for authorities if the employer submits a brief overview of all candidates with a short explanation of which qualifications for a particular job were lacking. In special cases, the authorities can request an employer to intensify his recruitment efforts.
Arizona: Greece would never be inerested. The Greek Finance Minister destroyed even the stolen list sent to him by fence Christine Lagarde, list which contained the names and bank accounts of dozens of Greek billonaires
Nov 3, 2012 9:01 AM
4Arizona: Greece would never be inerested. The Greek Finance Minister destroyed even the stolen list sent to him by fence Christine Lagarde, list which contained the names and bank accounts of dozens of Greek billonaires
Right neckervd, maybe not the government, the more the people and though this list might be destroyed, the names of the first 2.000 people with hidden bank accounts in Switzerland were published in the magazine Hot Doc by journalist Kostas Vaxevanis.
Nov 3, 2012 8:51 PM
5A good site (oh god, isn't THAT relative?) is http://www.englishforum.ch. Many of them skip their meds regularly, but info on working/living/etcering in Switzerland is all there. Search for it before asking the same questions they get daily.
I also have a good friend living there from Zimbabwe via South Africa. When you get closer, I can get you hooked up - he's on English Forum.
the names of the first 2.000 people with hidden bank accounts in Switzerland
So what? Just another bunch of people thinking their troubles will be over if they only got that HIDDEN money back...
Let's see, a couple percent interest a year that they're not claiming as income? Hardly will fix Greece. Or India. Nice try though.
Nov 4, 2012 1:57 AM
6You are right, Pirate: some of the real problems of Greece are:
patronage system having as a result that poeple who have good jobs are unable to do the work they should do and that very qualified people don't get jobs),
idiotic mega bureaucracy hindering people to open own trades and to create jobs,
rather archaic banking system which is of no help for the development of local trades,
extreme centralisation (local communities can neither raise taxes nor decide how to spend the money for local purposes, everything is decided by some corrupt and unable officials in Athens),
no taxes for rich people (the orthodox church is one of the biggest land owners of Greece, but they never paid taxes; neither do that the mega rich shipowners),
Nov 4, 2012 1:26 AM
7So what? Just another bunch of people thinking their troubles will be over if they only got that HIDDEN money back.
Why do you think Pirate they think so?
Of course troubles are not over then.
But for people it's always more acceptable when there's at least a try to terminate that corruption and unfairness. People are not stupid.
Paying the bill by the 'normal people' and knowing politicians and tax fugitives know a way out is what will be improved by a critical journalism.
And Switzerland is one of the major spots for tax avoiding and white-wash activities.
End of (my) off-topic.
Nov 4, 2012 2:40 AM
8People are not stupid
Whee, that's debateable. "People" gets convinced that the 1,000,000 dollars that someone has stashed away all of a sudden would become 'their countries"... No. Theoretically (this is not my problem), the taxes would have been paid on that money when it was received. The INTEREST on that money going forward would/might be taxable - that couple per cent per annum I mentioned above, significantly less than what "the people" were told is stashed away.
But nice try, anyway.
Nov 4, 2012 3:12 AM
9"And Switzerland is one of the major spots for tax avoiding and white-wash activities."
White-washing certainly not. It's easier to do that in any other European country (neighbours (especially in the South) of Switzerland not exluded), and - of course - in all Caribbean Islands being more or less linked to UK.
As to the tax avoiding activities, they are done by people who don't pay taxes, not by banks or even countries. There are some exceptions, though: some places (like the State od Delaware) make some publicity in order to attract this kind of money. Others, like many serious German banks tell Swiss people only that they never ask where the money comes from and wheter it's leagally earned or not.
If you really want to prevent tax avoiding, you must change the laws in many countries. If people must declare their assets and pay asset taxes and if the revenue officer lives in the same city than the taxpayer and knows more or less his personal situation (Swiss system), it's much easier to detect any fiscal fraud. But if you don't even know the fortune of somebody, you cannot even guess wheter he is declaring his yield on assets correctly or not.
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