Cambodia shuts down
Replies: 38 - Last Post: Nov 27, 2012 10:14 AM Last Post By: hankor
Oct 16, 2012 12:55 AM
Yeah, you have a clue. See the now ancient page about it on
To underline it again, what readers here want to know about is how to travel between Don Det and Siem Reap.
Readers here don't know anything about Chhlong. They want to know only about how to travel between Siem Reap and points in southern Laos. Kampong Cham is the stop over point. You can make some money if you put up a web site that talks about all of these things. Do it now! :-) Cheers,
Oct 16, 2012 12:58 AM
16It up to and including the 23rd. I really expect private enterprises to start opening from tomorrow, they cannot afford to stay closed. But getting anything official done might be impossible.
We were told that hotels can continue operating normally and that the main target are places that cater to Khmer. Will be interesting to see what happens here in Pub Street.
Oct 16, 2012 2:11 AM
Oct 16, 2012 3:59 AM
Oct 16, 2012 4:39 AM
19Just heard of a friend that quite a few of the bars along St 51 in Phnom Penh such as Pontoon , the Heart of Darkness etc will be closed and any bars that are not in the good books will be leaned on ...
Hmmm !! I can't really see that happening my self , all those bars/clubs are big Tea money hitters for the Cops ...
If they are closed then they are not earning , not earning no Tea money ...Simple .
Oct 16, 2012 7:50 AM
Oct 16, 2012 8:06 AM
21uh-oh! am supposed to reach siem reap on 19th :-( does the shutdown include the temples? should i cancel/delay my trip by a week? please help someone!!!
No, the temples won't shut, they never do. You probably won't notice any difference at all, driving around Phnom Penh tonight there were a few places still closed as can be expected during Pchum Benh festival but there are still plenty of local and foreigner orientated places open too, including plenty of local restaurants and KTVs. .
Oct 16, 2012 10:50 PM
22Hmmm...I thought this was about King Sihanouk and the official mourning period.
Hmmm... A note from China may be of interest
Meanwhile, Shenzhen-based independent commentator Zhu Jianguo said Sihanouk had been associated in people's minds with the far left of the ruling Chinese Communist Party during the Mao era.
"He supported and approved of the Cultural Revolution (1966-1976) and the Great Leap Forward (1958-1960)," Zhu said. "That's why China approved of him, and sent him political help and material aid."
In September of 1976, Norodom Sihanouk returned to Phnom Penh from Beijing as Head of State of the Khmer Rouge regime. The Khmer Rouge made a film about it. See it on
Why mourn his passing? The Khmers that I know are celebrating. The Khmer Rouge Head of State has finally passed on. Next up, Ieng Sary, Khieu Sampan and Nuon Chea. Maybe the notice to tone things down was sent out by the government for this reason?
psst attn KCham, if you could look at one other thing, namely the crossing into Vietnam at Xa Mat. Out of Kampong Cham, go east on Hwy 7 to Krek, where you turn south to Xa Mat and then Tay Ninh on the Vietnamese side of the border. We have talked a lot about it here. It would be the best way to get to Saigon from Siem Reap. Why are buses not using that crossing? Maybe you have some news about it?
Oct 17, 2012 5:09 AM
23It was business as usual on Phnom Penh riverside when I left at 4 pm this afternoon
Oct 17, 2012 11:19 PM
24but he had absolutely nothing to do with their policies
Unfortunately, such a thesis does not hold up to even a simple review of the historical record.
After his overthrow by Lon Nol in March of 1970, Norodom Sihanouk took refuge in Mao Tse Tung's Beijing. The Cultural Revolution was in full swing in China at that time. Of course he knew everything about it. Everyone did. On December 20, 1970, Chou En-Lai and Norodom Sihanouk met to discuss the 10th anniversary of Chinese - Cambodian relations. Read the transcript from the meeting here.
More background on the event is here
Ten years earlier, when relations with the Communist Party of China were established, Norodom Sihanouk was at the height of his power. In December of 1960, it was not the Khmer Rouge who established relations with Mao Tse Tung. The Khmer Rouge were nothing at that time. In December of 1960, it was Norodom Sihanouk who established relations with Mao's People's Republic of China.
In Beijing in March of 1970, after his overthrow, it was not the Khmer Rouge who embraced Norodom Sihanouk. It was just the opposite. It was Norodom Sihanouk who embraced the Khmer Rouge. He used their army to overthrow his nemesis Lon Nol.
In April of 1975, who could not have known about the forced evacuation of Phnom Penh? A year and a half later, Norodom Sihanouk left Beijing for Phnom Penh as Head of State for the Khmer Rouge. Perhaps he was accepting responsabilty for the evacuation? How could he have not known about the forced evacuation of Phnom Penh? As Head of State for the Khmer Rouge for the past six years, he had everything to do with their policies.
Despite the trauma of the Khmer Rouge years, in 1982, as head of FUNCINPEC, he was the key signatory of the agreements that created the Coalition Government of Democratic Kampuchea. This was the grand coalition formed with the Khmer Rouge to struggle against the Vietnamese occupation of Cambodia. Once again, Norodom Sihanouk reconnected with is former allies. A quick explanation about the CGDK is on
Back in Beijing 20 years later, in 2003, after having been outmanouvered by Hun Sen...
This is from the official web site of the International Department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China
Cambodian King sings high praises for late Chairman Mao
PHNOM PENH, Dec. 25 (Xinhuanet) -- "Chairman Mao Zedong is one of the most respected and admired 'giants' in worldwide history where his ineffaceable and everlasting name will always be remembered," said Cambodia's King Norodom Sihanouk.
The King made the remarks in an exclusive written interview with Xinhua on the occasion of the commemoration of the 110th birthday of late Chinese leader Mao Zedong, which falls on Dec. 26this year.
Sihanouk spoke highly of Mao Zedong's outstanding contributions to the founding of the People's Republic of China, saying Mao is "the greatest hero of the multi-millennium history of China" who led the Chinese people to liberate from feudalism, colonialism and imperialism and "to make China a sovereign, united, powerful state."
King Norodom Sihanouk met with Chairman Mao for several times which had made strong impression on him. The King said he paid "the most fervent, respectful, admiring and grateful homage" to Mao.
It is China's Chairman Mao Zedong and Premier Zhou Enlai have "taken the historic initiative to establish, as far back as 1955, most friendly and closeness relations with the Khmer Kingdom," the King recalled.
"In the international arena, Chairman Mao Zedong had wonderfully achieved great triumphs of the openness policy ...as well as the five principles of the peaceful coexistence."
The 81-year-old Cambodian King, who came to China every year for his routine health check, always supported Chinese people in international affairs and has established good friendly relations with China's old and new leadership, which had laid a solid foundation for the future development of the bilateral relations between the two countries.
No wonder Hun Sen is suppressing the joy of the Khmer People, but never mind. The whole of it will be forgotten in a week, on the 23rd of October. hanno, thanks for the note. KCham, please do post your updates as soon as possible! :-)
Oct 18, 2012 1:40 AM
25I fail to see how any of that proves that Sihanouk had anything to do with the policy making of Democratic Kampuchea.
The PRC were supporting the PAV, and not the Cambodian Communists, but that changed after Lon Nol's coup and his declaration of war on the PAV. The PRC encouraged Sihanouk to align himself with the Cambodian Communists.
Sihanouk certainly helped the Khmer communists by calling on the masses to rise up and join them, but no scholar has ever suggested that he was anything other than a figurehead for them. He had nothing to do with commanding their army. The Sihanoukists in the FUNK/PFLANK army were purged after 1973.
No wonder Hun Sen is suppressing the joy of the Khmer People, but never mind.
That's just ridiculous, Sihanouk certainly wasn't universally liked but he was still popular with a sizable proportion of the people. I was out yesterday and saw the huge crowds who were out waiting for his funeral cortege. An estimated 500,000 lined the streets, and nobody was "suppressing their joy."
Oct 18, 2012 2:28 AM
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Oct 20, 2012 12:45 AM
29Like the tallest building in the world, it just died. Two of the guys involved are in jail for corruption in South Korea for corruption, surprise, surprise....
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