Urgent help: Seville-Tarifa-Morocco-Madrid
Replies: 14 - Last Post: Oct 21, 2012 6:57 AM Last Post By: 0live
Oct 16, 2012 3:13 PM
I think I bit off more than I can chew and I need some serious help here. I have all of Italy planned and I am now flying into Seville at 9:00pm on Oct. 25th. My GOAL is to get to Tarifa's port and head to Tanger, Morocco for just a day trip, first ferry out and last back. I also want to spend an actual day in Tarifa looking around and maybe going on a whale watching trip.
This is what I need:
To get from Seville to Tarifa either after I land on the 25th or fairly early on the 26th. Then I could spend the 26th in Tarifa, and 27th do Morocco (or if I got to Tarifa that night I could do Morocco the 26th and Tarifa 27th which would make getting to Madrid on 27th easier if needed). Then I need to get to Madrid from Tarifa as soon as possible - either the 27th or 28th morning.
I've read post after post about how to get buses or taxis to algeciras or back to seville and then Madrid. For the life of me, however, I cannot figure out a good route or understand these websites. I have tried and tried to figure out a route. I cannot afford a taxi, I am a student. I understand no one on this website wants to "plan" my trip but could anyone give me a little more help beyond just posting links to the transportation websites? This is my first time planning and traveling alone and I am having serious problems.
Again, this is urgent because I really need everything booked by 48 hours from now. I greatly appreciate any help at all!
Oct 16, 2012 3:23 PM
Oct 16, 2012 3:29 PM
Oct 16, 2012 4:04 PM
3Ok let's take this one stage at a time.
Firstly if you land at 9pm at Sevilla you are not going to get to Tarifa that night. It is 2 and a half hours by car so on a bus and with connections it would be considerably longer.
The most logical way to get there which involves only one change would be Sevilla- Cadiz- Tarifa. The earliest bus is 7am sevilla to Cadiz for 8.45 then 10.15 Cadiz to Tarifa for 12pm. The next one is Sevilla 9am arrive Cadiz 10.45 Leave Cadiz 11.15am arrive Tarifa 12.45pm. So a shorter journey time.
Here are the links:
If you then need to book a flight back to London Gibraltar is the nearest airport from Tarifa. You would get a bus from Tarifa to Algeciras and then another one to La linea and cross the border. You don't say what nationality you are so please check that you can go into Gibraltar before you book any flights. Don't assume it's the same as the UK.
However you mention Granada in your post. Personally I think this would be more enjoyable. Tarifa in Oct is gona be dead and if you do a day trip to Morocco all you will see in Tangiers which is ot that exciting and can be quite hassly. If you wanted ti go to Granada instead get the train from Sevilla which takes 3 hours and costs 28€ see:
To the get back to London take a bus direct to Malaga Airport which takes 2h20 and costs 10€ and get your flight from Malaga. If the direct bus times don't work then bus to Malaga and then either bus no19 to airport or local train.
Let me know if you have any more questions
Oct 16, 2012 4:10 PM
First of all, I´m a bit confused by your post, because you said "I arrive in Sevilla at 9.00 of 25th Oct" (so far, ok), but then you talk about 27, 28 plans and at the end you wrote "Then I need to get to Madrid from Tarifa as soon as possible - either the 27th or 28th morning"... And also, you don´t talk about time to visit Sevilla itself...
Anyway, if you have 25 and 26, and 27 morning you move on to Madrid, then my advise without any doubts is stay both days in Sevilla capital, plenty of things to see. Take into account that you arrive at 9 at the airport, but probably until 11 you won´t be in the city, check in in the hostel and so on, probably not much time in the morning...
If you have the 27th in Andalucía, still I wouldn´t go to Morocco, for few hours there is plenty of things to see without crossing the border. For instance, visit Carmona, Osuna or Ecija, quite close to Sevilla. If you prefer some nature, visit Doñana, the Rocio chapel, etc.
But still, you have linesur.com to go by bus Sevilla-Algeciras, about 2h; timetable -> http://www.activagest.com/linesur/admin/horarios/algeciras.pdf
Then you need a ferry to Tanger I guess and go back, is possible in a day, check the websites, they are in english.
Oct 16, 2012 4:14 PM
5I just reread your post and it seems like you were thinking of going to Granada as welll as Tarifa and Morocco. Tarifa to Granada woukld be Tarifa Algeciras about 45 misn and then change bus and on to Granada by bus which is about 4 hours. It may be quicker to get a train to Bombadilla from Algeciras and change.
I'm also really confued by you mentioning you Madrid. Do you have a flight booked back to the UK already and if so where from and when? If you are looking to land in Sevilla on the 25th and then visit Tarifa, Morocco, Granada and Madrid ad be back in Londn for the 30th well, you are not going to see much apart from through a bus or train window.
Perhaps y0u could clarify the bits of your trip that are set?
Oct 16, 2012 4:22 PM
6OK, while I would agree with the above about a day trip to Tangier, maybe the OP has a special mission in Africa?
So, here's some help:
When you get to Sevilla, take the airport bus to Santa Justa train station. Take the next train to Cadiz. Unfortunately, there's not a train early enough to get that 7:00 bus Cadiz-Tarifa. You may want to overnight in Tarifa. Or Cadiz, as it's a helluva lot more interesting than Tarifa, which is basically a windsailing and kiteboarding resort for EuroTrash, with attendant prices.
When you get to Cadiz, exit the train station and head to the bus station, which is pretty much outside the door of the train station. There are daily buses to Tarifa that leave Cadiz at 7:00, 14:00, and 20:15, and it takes about 100 minutes.* Then you will probably have to walk over to the ferry terminal, which takes about 15 minutes.
*(There may be some other buses but the bus company website is not that great. If you do get a bus in Sevilla, you can inquire at the bus station about other buses and other routes, for example Sevilla-Algeciras and then to Tarifa, possibly on the free ferry company shuttle bus.)
(There are also numerous buses from Sevilla to Cadiz, and the Sevilla bus station is not that far from the train station, and really close to the final stop of the airport bus.)
As you can see, there's such a variety of ways to go, it can be confusing. Since you're headed to Africa, where "all bets are off", I'd suggest you relax and just get there. You're not going to be able to "book everything" and in fact, "booking" everything will be more expensive. In fact, I'm wondering why a "student" needs this kind of crazy travelling schedule. Morocco is not going to go anywhere anytime soon. I don't mean to insult or question your mental makeup, but travel, especially between continents, is not always easy.
No doubt somebody else will pipe up with a better way to go, but that's my suggestion and I have made the Andalucia-Morocco crossing several times.
here's the bus company site.
Oct 17, 2012 12:16 AM
Oct 17, 2012 1:18 AM
Oct 17, 2012 6:10 AM
9nevekervd thats is because he is doing all of Italy from the 21st to the 25th! i haven't got a clue what you want to do but you are clearly tring to do too much. Just do the three or four days in Sevilla and fly back to London from there or two days in Seville and then train to Madrid and fly back from there. In the short space of trying to cram Morocco in is plain stupid. As you are studying in London you might well have realised it is Autumn there not fall.
Edited by: richiavo
Oct 17, 2012 8:12 AM
Welcome to TT!
There are direct buses from Sevilla to Tarifa. There's no need to change in Cádiz. You can consult here the schedule of the direct buses from Sevilla to Tarifa.
As you can see the schedule of the direct buses to Tarifa isn't that good for you. Alternatively, you could take a bus from Sevilla to Algeciras. qablo linked in #4 the schedule of buses from Sevilla to Algeciras. If you don't read Spanish: lunes a viernes=from Mondays to Saturdays. Diario=Daily. Sábados, domingos y festivos=Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays.
Once in Algeciras, you can take a ferry to Tanger MED, a new port that's kms away from the city of Tanger. Alternatively, you can take a bus to Tarifa (you can consult here the schedule. Salidas=Departures. Laborables=work days. For the rest, take a look at the translation I made above) and, once in Tarifa, a ferry to Tanger; the port in the city of Tanger.
FRS and Comarit (the website of Comarit is Spanish only) have ferries from Tarifa to Tanger and from Algeciras to Tanger MED. Trasmediterránea has ferries from Algeciras to Tanger MED.
Comarit also offers an organized daytrip to Tanger, if you are interested.
In order to go to Madrid, you can take a train from Algeciras to Madrid. Train company: RENFE. You can also take a bus. Bus company: Daibus. If you arrive to Tarifa (from Morocco), you'll have to take a bus from Tarifa to Algeciras (take a look at the schedule linked above).
These are your transport options. Now you have to work with them to see if your planned trip is possible and/or make sense.
P.S.: If you don't have booked your flight out of Madrid, you can fly to London out of Tanger.
Oct 18, 2012 8:26 AM
11I've since changed my plans, thanks to the helpful people on this site. I'm no longer going to Morocco. My post was poorly written and I think it led to some confusion from some not so nice people lol.
With regards to the "doing morocco," it's a phrase, not to be taken literal. No insult was given to any Moroccan, nor should any offense be taken. Were someone traveling to New York City to "do the US," obviously they won't get a taste of the Midwest or the South culture, but whatever, I wouldn't critique their saying.
And with regards to the length of my travels - I have classes/internship 4 days a week throughout my entire semester and so I can travel only on the weekends. I plan on going to Ireland and France on the weekends. Italy and Spain I felt deserved longer, and since I have this break, I divided it into 7 days and 5 days respectively. OBVIOUSLY any country should be traveled for a longer period - but I don't have that option? It was this, or go to Italy on a 3 day weekend. I thought I made a decent choice.
And richiavo, yes I know it's autumn. My university back home, as well as almost any university I know in the U.S., uses "Fall Break" for the period of time we get off from school during the autumn season. Is it alright if I phrase my break how I want to?
I sincerely appreciate all of the supportive feedback. I'm scratching out Morocco, and seeing just Seville and, after a bus trip, Madrid, for my Spain trip. Again, I realize that is not seeing much, or not much time is being spent in these locations - but it's all the time I am allotted.
The reason I had tried to squeeze Morocco in was because, ignorantly, I had thought I could get to the port in the morning and take the Ferry across for a day and back. I'm not the best planner, it's my first time traveling, I'm sorry that I tried.
Thank you everyone.
Oct 18, 2012 10:15 AM
12the Roman ruins outside of Sevilla, Italica, are worth a visit since you now have some time.
If you fancy a swim, the water off Cadiz right now is about 20 degrees c., and you could easily do a day trip down there.
Oct 19, 2012 4:09 AM
Thank you for coming back to us. I think your new itinerary is far better. i think you'll have a better time and get more of a flavour of Spain rther than trying t do too much and spend all your time sitting in bus. also the faster you move the greater the cost.
Re using the word "fall" instead of "autumn". Well I used to be a nitpicker but since learning Spanish in a variety of countries (17 in all I think) I've come to the decision that regional or national differences in language don't matter, there is no right and wrong,and the whole point of the exercise is to communicate. So so long as people understand what you are saying, who cares?.
Have fun in Spain. I hope the weather is nice. It's a bit damp in Marbella at the moment but the sunshie should return by Sunday.
Oct 21, 2012 6:57 AM
14Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but are you flying out of Madrid? If not, I would skip it for this time and just spend time in the south. Cadiz, Ronda, Cordoba and of course Granada are all much closer than Madrid. I think you will enjoy your time more if you stay in one region. And if you can come back another time, you could go to Madrid and see places around, like Segovia, Toledo etc.
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