UK Entry Refusal Clearance to Enter Ireland...
Replies: 13 - Last Post: Oct 7, 2012 11:43 AM Last Post By: Voyager_2002
Oct 6, 2012 6:07 AM
UK Entry Refusal Clearance to Enter Ireland...I would like to ask you a question regarding my case with UKBA and I appreciate your help if possible.
2 years ago I was working as cabin crew for an airline and I had 4 cartons of cigarettes while entering London Heathrow airport.. I got a police simple caution and later on: The airline (I used to work for) received an email from UK Border Agency informing that I have an entry refusal to the UK (because i was evading tax and this is considered as a criminal offense)... so I stopped flying to the UK. (knowing that nothing is stamped on my passport since I was a cabin crew and we usually don't go through immigration officers)
Now after 2 years, I got accepted to work for EMC (Leading IT company) and my 2 months induction training will be conducted in Cork (in the south of Republic of Ireland)
Since you have mentioned that UK and Ireland shares the same database. How can I know if I have an Entry refusal to the UK? who can I talk to?
If yes, can I clear it?
Is it going to affect my business visa to the Republic of Ireland?
(Since in the Irish visa application: they are asking if I had refused entry to any country)
Please advise and thank you a lot for the previous posts.
Oct 6, 2012 6:12 AM
Oct 6, 2012 6:16 AM
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Oct 6, 2012 6:47 AM
4Common Travel Area
What passport do you hold?
A police caution is not a serious offence.
Tick yes for visa refusal box as the immigration computer systems of the UK and ROI are harmonized.
You could apply for an Entrance Clearance at the British consulate. Normally an EC negates previous entry refusals.
Best of luck!
Oct 6, 2012 7:05 AM
5Thanks a lot! my passport is from Lebanon.. Do you think if I apply for it, they will accept to give me visa?
Oct 6, 2012 10:18 AM
6Lebanese passport holders need a visa to enter the ROI. Now when you apply for an Irish visa you must., I repeat you must tick yes on the previous entry refusal to the UK because both countries share information as members of the CTA. So ticking no would be considered as misrepresentation which will blow your chances not only with the Irish, but with any other British visa application in the future. You must come clean. You should go the the British consulate and explain what happend. They will check your immigration record and make a decision taking into consideration that two years have passed. Again. a police caution is not a serious offence, so I trust they will review the case and see that you are a serious bloke trying to get a job with an IT company in Ireland.
Oct 6, 2012 10:34 AM
7Hi Venona! Thanks a lot for your previous replies. I hope it works and I would like to say that I have to go to Ireland for two months induction training and then come back to the middle east to work... But imagine if I get accepted in this multinational company and then they discover I can't go for my induction training to Ireland.. I will loose the job... Thank a lot for the advice..
Oct 6, 2012 12:25 PM
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Oct 6, 2012 3:13 PM
10Any competent solicitor in the UK can check it on your behalf.
The only the issue, however, that stands against you in all this affair is that you used your position as cabin crew member of an international airline to smuggle goods with an intent to sell ( can only assume MEA ) I say it again, a police caution is not a serious offence. You should tick yes on the Irish visa form and try to sort out things vis-a-vis the UK Border Agency. This could be done via the British consulate in your country of residence. A fresh Entrance Clearance can Nagate all former issues, and once it is on the data-base, the Irish immigration authorities will automatically be updated as to your immigration status vis-a-vis the UK as the two countries share information. Otherwise you will have issues entering the CTA which include the British Channel Islands, Jersey, Manx and the Isle of Man all sharing the CTA. That is all I can say.
Oct 6, 2012 7:55 PM
11Hi Venona and billthehammer,
It was 9 cartons of cigarets (1800 cigarets) but I am shy to say it because I learned from my mistake and I don't really like to mention it in public.
Thanks Venona, I don't think they will arrest me again but of course I have to speak with the British council before applying to the Irish visa.
Oct 6, 2012 10:11 PM
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