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Vietnamese visa in Phnom Penh warning!

Replies: 8 - Last Post: Oct 7, 2012 10:53 PM Last Post By: aleksandray

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aleksandray

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Sep 29, 2012 8:56 AM
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Vietnamese visa in Phnom Penh warning!

If anyone is planning to apply for a Vietnamese visa in PP, please read about our experience first.

We asked around the guesthouses and agencies in PP for a month-long Vietnamese visa. We were quoted prices varying between $37 and $39 (just $1-2 more than a 15-day visa). Being on a budget and knowing they were earning a commission, we decided to go to the embassy directly and save the few dollars (we thought that officially the price is still $35). Upon arrival we were really surprised that at the embassy they charged $45! I must admit that in hindsight my incredulous reaction may have bordered on a bit of attitude. I asked how it was possible that they charged more than agencies. Anyhow, we then applied through our guesthouse. They only needed one photo and the passport.

However, it turns out that the officer at the embassy remembered us (passport photo?) and decided that he would not issue us the visa. Now we have no chance to get it in PP (although the guesthouse staff mentioned something in passing about possibly paying more... not sure about that though). They offered to run the passport to Sihanoukville for the same price, but that means more waiting. I'll post whether we got it or not when we hear back in a few days.

So here's how it works (as per the guesthouse staff). The official charge visa is still $35 but the local hustler association managed to organize a deal with the Vietnamese embassy staff. The deal is that the guesthouses can run the passports through the "organization" for a small commission. The guesthouses and agencies participating in this pay a (yearly, I think) fee to be a part of this service. But those applicants who try to go directly to the embassy are faced with an increased price (the whole of which apparently goes to the Vietnamese government). If you do what we did and they remember you, you are refused. Just because they can. Apparently this happens more to Americans (the staff member told us they don't like American applicants) but has happened to other nationalities as well (we're on Canadian passports, I we were told that one French guy was denied possibly because his father was Muslim {but really, when you have the power to issue a visa or not, do you really need a reason?}). Needless to say it's probably not a good idea and/or pointless to try again in PP after refusal. Usually the passports are not rejected on the second try in Sihanoukville (the second most used place, then the other is Battambang), but there are no guarantees. In the case of one American who was simply refused in PP, the delivery guy who took the passports to Sihanoukville had to plead with the officers to get the visa in Sihanoukville. Of course, I don't know the details of that situation, but it looks like they can be really fickle.

Who knew? This is the first we've seen this type of deal fixing. Not a good introduction to Vietnam...

Edited by: aleksandray

CMBurns

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Sep 29, 2012 9:49 AM
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"Who knew?" Well you would have if you had done just a little research. A search of the TT would have brought up LOTS of posts about getting a Vietnam visa in PP. And, making it clear that the cost at the embassy/consulates is $45USD, and that you can get a visa from agents for the same or less!
Sounds like you went to the embassy with the wrong information, were rude to the officials there, and paid the price for being rude to an immigration officer. Where are you from that you thought you could get away with that?
It's true the the embassy sub-contracts bulk visa service to a big agency that then processes visas for smaller agencies, and YES they charge a fee for that. There is NO FREE LUNCH and if you had taken the time to educate yourself you would have gotten a visa quickly, easily, and for a fair price.
BTW there was never a chance you were going to save any money going to the embassy, unless you were planning to walk! You would have to pay for 2 tuk-tuk/moto rides, one trip to apply and another to pick-up your visa. Safe travels, and good luck in Vietnam.

Edited by: Smithers, release the hounds!

NormC

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Sep 29, 2012 4:01 PM
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I cannot remember ever giving a passport photo to my guesthouse in PP when they went and arranged my Vietnamese visa for me, afterall, there is a photo of me in my passport!!

NormC

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Sep 29, 2012 10:49 PM
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Well you did ask for it OP....and you did say that your incredulous reaction might have bordered on a bit of attitude!!
It seems like you were trying to save $2....as CMBurns said, you would have had to pay for a couple of tuk tuk rides unless you walked!!...and why waste a few hours over $2?....So maybe you asked for the reaction to your post!!
So toughen up Princess or I will skitch Bachien onto you!!

CMBurns

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Oct 1, 2012 6:44 PM
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OP the point is that anyone that has done just a little research would already be warned. There have been hundreds of posts here about getting a Vietnam visa in Cambodia. Yours is the very first post I've seen from someone that made the mistakes you did. So, I'm inclined to think that the "warning" issue has been well covered.
I've been back and forth to the embassy a bunch of times and if you really did walk it then you are surely a true glutton for punishment.

aleksandray

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Oct 3, 2012 6:27 AM
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I said I would write with an update about our application to Sihanoukville. We received our visas without any problem. This should be good news for anyone else who is denied.

JJack

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Oct 3, 2012 10:15 AM
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I must admit that in hindsight my incredulous reaction may have bordered on a bit of attitude

gee ya think that may have been the root cause of your problems?

Junglebeach

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Oct 4, 2012 5:03 PM
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OP. you think this is a SEA scam between the guesthouses and embassy

as said, the folks at the embassy have the power to give a visa or refuse to, up to them ...

it's all over the place
the canadian embassy in bangkok, who used to issue visa for vn to go to canada jerked me around for 1 1/2 year, to issue a tourist visa for my vn WIFE ..
the fat bitch from Ontario said and i quote " As long as i have my job, I will NEVER issue a tourit visa for your wife "

BUT what i wanted to write is seeing that you had such a nasty time getting you visa to vn, i think you should stay away from here / vietnam, because there will be a lot of these times where you may be chargedmore than you think you should pay ... will drive you crazy ... best go to Bali or such place

aleksandray

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Oct 7, 2012 10:53 PM
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Junglebeach, I am sorry to hear about your troubles getting a visa to Canada for your wife. This experience that we had really served as a reminder that we very privileged to be passport holders from a generally well-regarded country. For many nationalities applying for any type of visa in Canada (not to mention the US), applicants are faced with many more difficulties, as your example illustrates.

Now that we received our visa from Sihanoukville and are in the country, we are enjoying ourselves and pleasantly surprised as we had been told by quite a few people that Vietnam is not a very friendly place. So far, that has not been our experience. Of course people try to rip us off, and although it's tiring, it hasn't been different from any other place in SEA in that regard. It's funny that you mention Indonesia, which we found to exercise a very radical dual-pricing system (in many cases it was difficult to find out what the actual prices were). So far, so good.
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