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hardnosethehighway

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Sep 30, 2012 9:40 PM
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Language Spoken in DF aka Google is Often Useless

There's a language spoken mainly in DF-has about 20,000 speakers IIRC.

Not necessarily of indigenous origin-does anyone recall the language I'm thinking of?

Apologies for being so vague-it's been a long day and a recent visitor to DF reminded me of this earlier and now I'm wracking my brain trying to remember.

TIA

RichTX1

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Oct 1, 2012 2:06 AM
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Closer to 40K Nahuatl speakers...and Nahuatl is the second official language of the country.

CascadeBob

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Oct 1, 2012 5:55 AM
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Rich, I thought there were over one million nahuatl speakers in Mexico.

carracar

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Oct 1, 2012 6:03 AM
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And I thought all along, it was Chilango... carracar

CascadeBob

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Oct 1, 2012 6:33 AM
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Here's what wikipedia says about languages spoken in Mexico http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Mexico

Also, Mexican Spanish is unique for the large number of nahuatl words adopted into regular use (guajalote, popocatepetl, huachinango, jitomate).

As for chilango slang - that could almost qualify as another language and only a true chilango could truly understand this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xpEiKmX1U4

enroutesiglo

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Oct 1, 2012 8:45 AM
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No mames guëy, there's a lot more than 20,000 Chilango speakers in D.F. cabróooooon.

It could also be Otomí, more respectfully known as "Ñañu" or "Hñähñu." They mostly come from Queretero and Hidalgo but I found them to be the most prevalent indigenous group in D.F. There are, however, more like a quarter million of them.

Also possibly Esperanto.

luisgdl74

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Oct 1, 2012 9:39 AM
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Nahuatl is the second official language of the country

Actually Mexico has no official languague. Spanish is not the official language, let alone Nahuatl the "second" official language.

anillos_de_saturno

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Oct 1, 2012 10:22 AM
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This link could help.
If the language you are trying to recall isn't among the languages listed there, you could try to take a look at the web of Ethnologue that contains a full list of languages spoken in Mexico -the country; not the DF- (the data about the number of speakers could be -a bit- outdated though).

RichTX1

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Oct 1, 2012 10:35 AM
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Bob (#2)... about a million and a half in the country (and a few thousand in the United States). 37 point something thousand in the Federal District, which is what I think the OP was asking about.

CascadeBob

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Oct 1, 2012 11:30 AM
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Thanks for the clarification Rich - yep, that sounds about right.

RichTX1

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Oct 1, 2012 12:18 PM
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Luis (#6)... an over-simplification, and you may have a better way of explaining this. THEORETICALLY Nahuatl and other "indigenous languages" (based on what the constitution's English translation not very helpfully calls "ethnolinguistic criteria") are considered co-equal with Spanish for legal purposes. There's more in the way of legal documents and school texts available in Nahautl than most of the other languages (and even a Huiquipedia — that can use a lot of help in getting more articles translated).

enroutesiglo

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Oct 1, 2012 1:39 PM
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Always found it interesting how the Mexican constitution intentionally does not set Spanish as an official language...

Anyway, the OP said a language spoken "mainly" in D.F. which doesn't really correspond to anything. If they meant Estado de Mexico, it'd be Mazahua (not to be confused w/Mazateco), though that has 100's of k speakers.

hardnosethehighway

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Oct 1, 2012 8:18 PM
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" OP said a language spoken "mainly" in D.F. which doesn't really correspond to anything"

Indeed-I should have said exclusively in DF and it's none of the indigenous languages mentioned.

RichTX1

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Oct 1, 2012 8:59 PM
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You may be thinking of Calo, which is not really a language, but a Mexican "cockney" used around Tepito. Much as London cockneys have incorporated some Yiddish and Irish in their slang (mostly to keep outsiders from understanding what they're saying), Calo borrows from Hña-hña and Nahuatl.

enroutesiglo

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Oct 2, 2012 12:00 AM
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There is definitely no language spoken exclusively in D.F. – that's not up for debate. Come on, you gotta play fair... ;)

Caló (a.k.a.. Pachuco/Chicano) is pretty interesting... influenced by some Tepito slang but also Spanish, Gypsy, and English, but its main usage was in the Southwest U.S. and Texas and it is connected to the Chicano identity.

There are still some elements of Tepiteño jerga floating around, but it's def. not considered a language, or even a dialect...
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