Help! Best of Central/ Eastern Europe in 3 Weeks (December 2012)?
Replies: 7 - Last Post: Oct 2, 2012 8:03 AM Last Post By: battybilly
Sep 30, 2012 2:39 AM
Help! Best of Central/ Eastern Europe in 3 Weeks (December 2012)?Hi all,
The wife and I are planning a 3 week trip to Central/Eastern Europe this December (30 Nov to 25 Dec). I know I know, it'll be cold but that's the only time of the year I can get away for long enough :X
We realize that we're looking at a VERY large region with a lot to offer and are having a tough time deciding on an itinerary.
Was hoping to get some input to help plan this trip, with the following considered:
1. Would like to see/do:
- Really old cities and small quaint towns
- Art/museums/ancient architecture
- Natural beauty, mountains, forests, trekking and outdoor activities (what are the available options in winter?)
2. Easy traveling at a relaxed pace; don't want to be rushing for the X o'clock bus to reach Y in time for the Z o'clock train!
3. Have shortlisted the following countries based on our very limited knowledge. Feel free to suggest to the contrary:
Obviously, we'll have to narrow it down to 3, 2 or even 1 country given the limited time.
4. Would like to visit more than just the capital cities. E.g. Hungary./Romania probably have more to offer than just Budapest/Bucharest:)
5. Budget about 50-100 euros a day possible?
Love to hear what everyone has to say. Thanks in advance and our deepest appreciation!
Edited by: adrianchew
Edited by: adrianchew
Edited by: adrianchew
Sep 30, 2012 4:25 AM
It's going to be very cold. But then you've done the Himalayas already, so will be seasoned to it.
If it was me narrowing it down to just 3, I'd choose CZ, RO and BG. Just my choice though.
Ukraine in winter for me, is just too cold. CZ is lovely, but can be more expensive, Austria a lot dearer.
Hungary is more a summer country for me, than a winter one. Again, these are only my opinions.
€50-€100 a day.... That's quite a big difference. Somewhere between the two for CZ and Austria maybe.
€50 a day in RO and BG should be OK, as long as you're not wanting flash restaurants and hotels.
It's possible to find an OK room with breakfast in RO and BG for around €20 a night.
Trains in E.Europe are cheap, but generally quite slow. Allow plenty of time between destinations.
BG and RO have some lovely mountains and wildlife.
Museums aren't my thing really, so I'll leave others to recommend some.
I can come back with more if you like. How's that so far?
Back to you.
Sep 30, 2012 6:46 AM
2Hi Billy (I'm guessing that's your first name and not Batty :D),
First of all, thanks for taking the time.
We were leaning toward Romania and Bulgaria ourselves! Would like your opinion on the places you think we absolutely shouldn't miss in these 2 countries. Don't worry about the museums, I'm sure we can find that out. I'm more interested to know what you found personally special and why.
p.s. I see that you like music. How's the local scene in RO and BG, traditional/modern/whatever?
Sep 30, 2012 7:23 AM
3Oh - many people call me batty (I aint bothered), hence the user name. I panic a lot - and flap endlessly.
I see myself as sociable (everyone welcome), but I can be batty - whatever that means, for sure.
Ah - there are some wonderful BG and RO gurus on T.T. I'm just a prolific traveller, not a guru.
I love both countries and their people very much. I have a house in Bulgaria and some land in Transylvania.
I'm off to Bulgaria in a few weeks time (again ! !).
EasyJet cheap from Manchester, Wizzair cheap from Luton, Ryanair cheap from Stansted.
I'm a wildlife, mountains, rent-a-car, beach, rivers and beer addict. Maybe that tells you something about me.
I adore the Danube and it's offerings.
I get on with Eastern Europeans and North Africans more than most (just me again).
Yes - a great music fan, compose a bit, have mad choon systems in Chateau bb and nice neighbours ! !
Music in E.Europe is some of my favourite. I've collected recorded stuff from many countries.
E.Europe music for me, is amongst the very best.
Incidentally, you like good choons.... Check out Belgrade. It's so good. The nightclubs are superb.
There's a town in Romania called Tirgu Jiu (Targu Jiu). The live bar music is excellent.
Not the quickest place to get to from Bucuresti, but a great drive (if you're into rent-a-car).
There are (maybe) some 20 bars or so in TJ where the live music goes on till well after midnight.
Oh - and all this coming from someone who prefers studio stuff to live ! !
A little PS.... There is a train from TJ to Petrosani (pronounced Petroshan). It takes about 2hrs.
I'm not gonna be too accurate with this....
It does something like 50 tunnels, climbs 2000-3000feet and passes about 20 waterfalls.
The upside, the fare is about €3. The downside.... Petrosani is a tip.
BG music.... Very good too. Not so much bar stuff, but masses of excellent street musicians.
Sep 30, 2012 8:35 AM
4"wildlife, mountains, rent-a-car, beach, rivers and beer addict" - I believe we walk the same path, my friend.
And I think you've just decided the trip for us. Seriously, wish I was leaving tomorrow >:D
So that's it then, RO and BG for 3 weeks! Now I'll be using LP as a reference but would greatly value your personal opinion, given your affinity for RO/BG.
1. RO - TJ, train from TJ to Petrosani, rent-a-car...where else? Vlad Tepes?
2. BG - your personal recommendations please! Mountains, rivers?
3. HG - let's say we wanted to do Budapest, would it be possible or too much of a rush given the timeline?
Just imagine that you were planning a 3 week trip for yourself. Mountains, rivers, forests, music...can hardly wait!
Sep 30, 2012 8:49 AM
5Rivers.... Just one - The Danube (for me anyway).
Flows through more countries and captital cities than any other river on the planet. The delta is wonderful.
Vlad Tepes.... His home town (city) of Sighisoara, rather than any of the castles for me.
A lovely location. What bothers me a bit, is you're doing this in December. Many places will be wet and cold.
It's great shouting loads of recommendations at you, you arrive and get a daily soaking.
Mountains.... Busteni (pronounced Bushten), close to Brasov. breathtaking and there will be snow for sure.
Mount Mousala I think (just think) is the highest peak betweeen the Alps and The Caucasus (almost 1000ft).
Lovely mountain range too.
Skiing.... Bulgaria has just about the cheapest skiing in the world.
Sure, you could do Budapest from Gara Nord (Bucuresti), but it's well over 12 hours. I wouldn't personally.
Summer time.... Yes, but not in winter.
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