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sayonara

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Sep 18, 2012 5:02 AM
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Sales Commission

Could somebody please tell me who pays the agent's commission when you buy a house in France: is it the purchaser or seller? I was told it is the purchaser but the notary who will act as agent wants us, the sellers, to pay the commission. Is that right?
Thanks for any replies.

regards

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Sep 18, 2012 5:23 AM
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Yes, both do but the %age it limided by the law (what has nothing to say in France).

JaneyD

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Sep 18, 2012 6:51 AM
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non-frenchies might find the system here a little wierd - the agent actually acts for both parties (in many other places that would be a conflict of interest), so both parties pay agents fees / commission and notary fees

battybilly

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Sep 18, 2012 7:06 AM
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It's not unusual. Most property agents in E.Europe charge fees to both the seller and buyer.

gawkabout

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Sep 18, 2012 7:38 AM
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One mistake expats make, is buying a house, b4 living in that location for at least a year.

To find out how things are REALLY done. Or if there's better locations elsewhere.

battybilly

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Sep 18, 2012 7:42 AM
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*4.... So true, so very true. I just know that so well?!

gawkabout

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Sep 18, 2012 7:42 AM
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Kile crime rate, local corruption etc.

sfgirl42

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Sep 18, 2012 5:30 PM
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There are a number of expat websites that have useful information on this and other such subjects. I'd do a search 'expats ______' (area you're interested in. If you read French well enough, check out the local newspapers online (the one I follow lists police matters under
"Faits divers" (in Ariege News, this appears weekly only).
There is a LOT going on with property in France now and whether you plan on using it for retirement and renting it out as a holiday let, you really need to know all the details. Read a couple issues of www.audeflyer.com with the 'ask the lawyer' columns or the tax advice columns to get an idea of the complexities involved.
Good luck

JaneyD

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Sep 19, 2012 5:37 AM
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i think maybe there is some confusion here on notaries fees and agents fees they are usually two separate fees. and it depends what you negotiate as to how you share them.

for example 1 notary and 1 agent means each side might share 50% of notary fees and 50% agents fees/commission each. but it is not unusual for both parties to each have their own notary, and maybe their own agent, in which case you would pay for your own.

and be careful what price the % is charged on (eg price net of TVA, price net of TVA but including agents commissions, gross price etc)

artemis2

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Sep 19, 2012 6:11 AM
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I am not an expert on French real estate, but i am reading confusing things.

You can sell a house without an agent (from owner to owner directly) and avoid an agents fee that way, but you can never sell a house without a notary.
On the other hand a notary can act like an agent as well...

regards

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Sep 19, 2012 6:23 AM
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As far as I understood the following http://www.pap.fr/conseils/achat-vente/choisir-son-notaire/a10921 only the buyer need a notary (who act the signatures) and has to pay for.

bjd

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Sep 19, 2012 9:19 AM
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One notary can deal with the paperwork but both the seller and buyer have to present or represented to sign the papers. It can be either the buyer's or seller's notary or just one recommended by an agency.

As artemis2 says, an agency only gets paid (usually by the buyer) if it sells the property, but a notary is always necessary. Which explains why French notaries are usually wealthy.

Kerouac2

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Sep 19, 2012 11:26 PM
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Notaries absolutely despise that everybody calls the money that must be paid to them "notary fees" because about 90% of the amount paid to them is government taxes and registration fees. They only get a small portion of the money.

sayonara

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Sep 26, 2012 5:50 AM
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Thanks for everybody`s input. The matter is resolved. The notary said his secretary made a MISTAKE and it should have read ... supportés par l`ACHETEUR. One really has to be vigilant.
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