Glasgow in UK to Goa in India by road covering Europe and Asia!!!
Replies: 17 - Last Post: Sep 21, 2012 1:54 AM Last Post By: everbrite
Jul 2, 2012 2:55 AM
France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Albania, Macedonia, Greece, Bulgaria, Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Pakistan and India.
Though the trip is limited to these 23 countries, there is a hope to spread the message of peace to all the people, in countries all over the world.
I would need suggestions from you guys regarding things to do and precautions to take on the way. Any advise to make this trip more successful and pleasurable will be welcome!!
For more information please visit www.glasgow2goa.com
Jul 2, 2012 1:21 PM
1Do you prefer to be kidnapped (and may be killed) in Afghanistan or in Beluchistan?
Jul 4, 2012 8:26 AM
Jul 4, 2012 9:10 AM
Actually the route you want should be Turkey-Georgia-Armenia-Iran.
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Jul 4, 2012 1:10 PM
Jul 4, 2012 5:09 PM
5The route in Europe isn't particularly complicated and you shouldn't have too much trouble. You should be able to move quickly and even the detouring that you will do to hit some of these countries won't be especially difficult (You do realize that the most direct route would not take you through Albania or the Balkans or even Switzerland, right?)
You problems will begin once you pass to Iran.
You may see this as some sort of peace mission, but don't expect others to see your journey this way.
You aren't really traveling the route which most people consider the silk road as you aren't going through the 'stans to China.
Good luck to you.
Jul 4, 2012 5:20 PM
Jul 5, 2012 1:33 AM
7Ruth: Yes i chose to take a detour. I did check the pass from Iran to Pakistan and that seems to be the biggest obstacle at the moment. The Baluchistan area seems to be a total no no with foreigners with so many kidnappings etc. I might end up taking the silk route, but my biggest question is "is it possible to drive in China/Lahsa/Tibet/Nepal end of October". I guess the snow fall may get me stuck there in those times.
yaofeng: Yes with all your opinion in the same direction, world peace would not go well with guys in the region. Well i want to do it for my satisfaction more than anyone else coz it takes one to start the chain.
Jul 5, 2012 8:33 AM
8Ruth: I have got in touch with the company Navo Tours. A friend of mine used them 2 years ago for the same route with a guide www.londondelhibyroad.com Will find out what they quote me.....but you do stir all parts of my brain. You seem to have a vast amount of knowledge in those areas. It would be amazing to have you as my virtual tour/guide and mentor.
I was wondering if it is feasable to enter Pakistan from Kashgar i.e Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan (Tajikistan) -----Kashi (China), Islamabad (Pakistan) and then India ? I am not sure about the routes btw Kashgar and Islamabad and again temp in Oct.
Jul 5, 2012 12:52 PM
9You can't cross from Tajikistan to China. There is no international crossing. There are two possibilities from Kyrgyzstan to China - the Torugart Pass and Irkeshtam. Read about them here on the TT. There is also the possibility to go from Kazakhstan to China, but that is longer.
To do this you need to get the Iranian visa and an Uzbekistan visa prior to departure so that you can apply for the Turkmenistan transit visa. These Turkemn transit visas are not always so easily obtained.
I'd love to be a virtual passenger on your trip.
Jul 6, 2012 2:19 AM
10Thank you Ruth for accepting the offer.
I will try to find out about the Turkmenistan visa and if there is a possibililty of getting it. The KKH has had my alderine pumping to the max but there has been a lof of confusion w.r.t road btw Kashgar and Islamabad. I am told there is a lake between the towns of Nazim Abad and Ali Abad and only boats can ferry people and not cars. How authentic is that has been hard to confirm as not many people seem to have done it. The ones who did looks like are "still captivated by the beauty" to take time to update here.
Jul 6, 2012 3:15 AM
Jul 6, 2012 6:28 AM
12Ruth: I found the route does exists and the cars can be ferried over. Will divuldge more into it. I am also trying to figure out an agency which can do all my visas for Azerbaijan , Tukmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.
Is there any issue if i was to do Armenia, then back to Turkey, then Gerogia and Azerbaijan ? Someone said Azerbaijan is very particular about the countries that you visit before they allow a person.
I am looking to ship my car from Azerbaijan to Tukmenistan and if that does not work it would have to Iran and Tukmenistan.
Jul 6, 2012 8:16 AM
13The word is spelled divulge and means to disclose, reveal, publish, betray, expose. I think the word you want is to delve, meaning to carry on intensive and thorough research for data, information, or the like; to investigate.
I believe that I mentioned previously that driving a UK vehicle with the steering wheel on the right is a probelm in AZ. See these threads which mention this problem and other issues about driving a foreign car in AZ: Is this correct? and Right Hand Drive Vehicles in AZ
There should be no issue traveling from Turkey to Georgia to AZ. There is no reason to go through Armenia.
And there is no reason to go through Tajikistan. Assuming that you don't have all the time in the world and buckets of money, you really need to look more at taking the direct route.
I would be more concerned about the vehicle issue than the passport stamp issue.
Jul 6, 2012 12:52 PM
14You are right about the words and thanks for correcting. I think since the time is running out, i am trying to zero it down. Sending so many mails and making so many arrangements that i am all over the place. So did not see whatever the word check would have suggested i took it without looking.
W.r.t right hand drive, it is not fully defined in AZ, so some get through and some have to pay. I am doing the route because it is highly recommended by someone who has been there. They say it is rated as one of the top 10 places for a drive and i wanted to do it for the reason. Like you said visa stamp would be least of my issues and i can assure you it is not. Thanks for your concern and keep the information coming as i am like the little sponge with tons of water coming from you. You amaze me with you information, time and patience!!! I hope i am able to thank you enough at the end of my trip!!!
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