succesfull visa run in June 2012
Replies: 35 - Last Post: Jul 14, 2012 9:49 PM Last Post By: rollyb
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As always, good post by rolly. I think rolly said it right with some having their homemade rules. Its Mexico.I have never known anyone to have a problem getting a new one right away.
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Cool! Thanks for explanation. No one else has found anywhere it says you cannot have them back to back, but in Bill's imagination.And, following a link on your URL there is an interview with an INM official who says the same thing.
Bill is actually a smart man in many areas. He is very knowledgeable about life in Mexico City. As long as he writes about what he knows he does a great job. It's when he jumps the rails that he is really messed up.
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I know that a lot of the old-timers consider Rolly to be the source for this kind of information, but I suspect that he has a hard time understanding the complicated Spanish in that document. From seciton H on the Forma Migratoria Multiple:"Se crea la Forma Migratoria Múltiple (FMM) que se da a conocer en el Anexo 3 del presente, la cual tiene tres objetivos: 1) documentar a extranjeros que pretendan permanecer en el país por un plazo máximo hasta 180 días."
"The Multiple Migratory Form, which is shown in Annex 3, is established. It has the following three objectives: 1) document foreigners who intend to reside in the country for a maximum time of 180 days."
Below, this paragraph, it lists the uses of the form. All of the maximum times (it is 180 days for tourists) are improrrogables (not extendable).
On the very top of the FMM itself it says in English, which I assume is the native language of most of you, "this form must be filled out individually by all foreigners entering Mexico."
We used to argue about whether or not there was a 180 day annual limit. I was, and continue to be on the right side on that issue: there is no 180 day annual limit. However, this current discussion is not about that. It is regarding whether one has to leave the country to obtain a new FMM. From reading the law myself, I know that, legally, after 180 days one must leave the country because the FMM is improrrogable beyond that point. As I said before, I do not doubt that some INM agents are willing to give a new form to some people without making them leave the country. The honest ones, however, will require exit and reentry before issuing a new form.
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I don't agree with your deduction that the fact that an FMM cannot be extended (we all know that) means one must then exit the country. After the FMM has been turned in, a person is still legal in the country because s/he is in the "frontier" zone.You still have not shown where it says one must exit the country before getting a new FMM. .
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When I was in Acapulco and thought I might be over extending the 180 days, I went to the Mexican consulate there. I was told I would have to leave the country and then re-enter again. Buena suerte, Edmund24
Rolly gets the point perfectly. We all know it says the document is only good for 180 days. The point you do not get is once you leave, or they think you left, you can get a new one also good for another 180 days. If they did not want you to be able to get more than one in a year, the rules would say, "Limited to one 180 day period per year." The rules do not say that.Also, repeatedly, immigration gives new ones to people knowing they recently surrendered an expired one. Immigration officials also have said in interviews that people can have more than one in a year. As long as they leave the nation first.
Yet, the usual suspects who claim to know more than those who have done it, and more than the immigration officials, continue to give out false information with no foundation except that found in their own minds.
Edited by: tiredandretired
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"The point you do not get is once you leave, or they think you left, you can get a new one also good for another 180 days. If they did not want you to be able to get more than one in a year, the rules would say, 'Limited to one 180 day period per year.' The rules do not say that."You do not get the point, #25. Go back and read the thread. I was not saying that you cannot get another FMM after being in the country for 180 days. I know you can, because I have done it repeatedly. I was stating that, legally, one must leave the country in order to obtain a new FMM.
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Clearly, people are describing how to evade the regulations and some or most who offer that advice have little to no knowledge of how the FMM process works or they're illegal aliens in Mexico. Their advice is best ignored. My suggestion is that if someone's been in the country for the 10 day maximum, or longer, simply walk into the nearest INM office in the interior of the country ... tell the person in charge you're living and or working in Mexico on an FMM, and want an extension or another 180 day FMM so that you can continue to live/work in Mexico ... and the person will respond. I'm convinced you won't like the answer you get after revealing all of that information. Mojados , in any country, shouldn't be admired or encouraged.LW
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