← Back to topic list
it also surprises me that some people freak out about the unlikely chance of getting bird flu, but have no problem smoking a packet of toxic, carcinogenic cigarettes a day.
many thanks.
it also surprises me that smokers generally come up with the argument that car pollution is much worse and should be tackled rather than smoking in enclosed public spaces. however smokers don't see that driving a car in a pub/club or enclosed public space is not allowed anyway.
and then smokers don't see that owning and driving a car is much more heavily regulated by rules and laws than smoking is.
and when finally driving a car is regulated even further through more rules and laws and taxes, then smokers are the ones that complain the loudest when in the first place they themselves said that car driving should be tackled.
that's the hypocritic smokers for you.
Oh, like alcohol, you mean?
BTW - I don't drive. I walk, cycle or take the bus. If I did buy a car it would be an electric one, preferably solar-charged.
Most people I know who do drive wouldn't dream of walking even five minutes to the shops. I find legs very useful for that, and shopping trolleys good for transporting my weekly shop.
yet when areas for smokers are restricted, the same vast majority bitch about defending their addiction by calling it freedom (they choose to be addicted and call it freedom. how much sense does that make???) and spend an enormous amount defending it, but don't see that if they made the same hard effort to quit rather than defend their addiction they'd be much better off.
likewise smoker's say that alocohol is bad you as well, but don't see that it does not do anyone any physical harm sitting next to a drinker, wheras passive smoking causes all sorts of diseases.
it also surprises me that smokers don't see that there is no safe level of cigarette tobacco consumption irrespective of how many cigarettes someone smokes and that half of all long-time tobacco users die painfully and prematurely, wheras there is a safe level of alcohol consumption, yet they must compare lethal tobacco addiction to moderate alcohol consumption.
Like wife-beating, alcoholism leading to homelessness, getting pregnant or contracting AIDs while under the influence, being run down by a drunken driver, etc. etc. etc. (ad nauseum)
But I do rather question your 'half of ..'
it always surprises me that smokers cannot accept an argument against smoking and the claim problems such as alcohol and obesity are worse, when in actual fact they use such arguments to distract from their own unability to lead a life without nictotine addiction.
it always surprises me that the negative effects of alcohol abuse are mentioned as if they were the rule and what always happens when drinking alcohol, when in actual fact these incidences are the exceptions from the many people that consume alcohol.
with tobacco consumption though there is no safe level at all - each and every cigarette brings cancer closer - however that is not the case with moderate consumption with alcohol, which makes such a comparison appear absolutely ridiculous.
I see threads on here, asking if its too hot to bother going to Spain.
I may die from smoking cigarettes. But ya gotta die of somethin'!
Better than dying of bordom. Or sanctimony.
(but its like when I drove a taxi. I'd raise Hell with another driver for a stupid move.
Twelve minutes later...I['d catch myself doin' the same thing he did.
8=(
it always surprises me that smokers say that it is better than dieing of boredom, as if smoking was exciting and non-smokers live a boring life.
it always surprises me that smokers come up with exceptional examples such as this and that person smoked two packets a day for 70 years and lived up to 87 years or so, when such a case is clearly an exception from the rule and only known because it is such an unusual exception.
it is the same as falling off a tower block and not get injured. that does not make falling off a tower block safe.
i always surprises me that smokers keep deluding themselves and come up with poor arguments just to defend their lethal addiction.
This guy would go smoke with a guy who ran a watch stand next door to our store and defended smoking with the excuse that it was a way to make friends. One day I said, "Great, you two can have chemo together one day." Like most smokers, he was in denial of the health risks of smoking so he didn't take it so well.
I have been, from time to time. And what generally drives me back is listening to all the smug and sanctimonious ex-smokers patting themselves and each other on the back because they've managed to kick the habit.
There's cancer in my family. We have a habit of dying young from it. My younger brother has just had a tuour larger than a football removed fro his stomach. So far, I've outlived my non-smoking mother and grandfather by more than 25 years each. Last year I walked up two mountains, stopping for a cigarette or two on the way.
Many years ago a link was established between smoking and cancer. After a time they had to find some reason to all the people who died of lung cancer without ever having smoked a cigarette, so they came up with 'passive smoking'. Now, true to form, they're having to find another reason why people die, so this week they've released a statement that 'being a couch potato' is as dangerous as smoking. What next?
AFAIK there are two major causes of death. The second one is fear - which killls you early; the major one is birth - it's 100% fatal; everyone who has ever been born will die.Want to live forever? Don't get born is my advice.
← Back to topic list
comparison
it surprises me that some people tend to complain about the weather being to hot, cold, sticky, humid, and what not quite a bit, but don't mind inhaling second hand smoke in a pub or bar.it also surprises me that some people freak out about the unlikely chance of getting bird flu, but have no problem smoking a packet of toxic, carcinogenic cigarettes a day.
many thanks.
2
it surprises me that driving a polluting car is compared to smoking when driving a car generally has the purpose of transporting people or goods from A to B, while smoking has absolutely no benefit at all, other than satisfying someone's lethal addiction.it also surprises me that smokers generally come up with the argument that car pollution is much worse and should be tackled rather than smoking in enclosed public spaces. however smokers don't see that driving a car in a pub/club or enclosed public space is not allowed anyway.
and then smokers don't see that owning and driving a car is much more heavily regulated by rules and laws than smoking is.
and when finally driving a car is regulated even further through more rules and laws and taxes, then smokers are the ones that complain the loudest when in the first place they themselves said that car driving should be tackled.
that's the hypocritic smokers for you.
3
it surprises me that driving a polluting car is compared to smoking when driving a car generally has the purpose of transporting people or goods from A to B, while smoking has absolutely no benefit at all, other than satisfying someone's lethal addiction.Oh, like alcohol, you mean?
BTW - I don't drive. I walk, cycle or take the bus. If I did buy a car it would be an electric one, preferably solar-charged.
Most people I know who do drive wouldn't dream of walking even five minutes to the shops. I find legs very useful for that, and shopping trolleys good for transporting my weekly shop.
4
i find it quite surprising that the vast majority of smokers say they want to quit, or wish they'd never started.yet when areas for smokers are restricted, the same vast majority bitch about defending their addiction by calling it freedom (they choose to be addicted and call it freedom. how much sense does that make???) and spend an enormous amount defending it, but don't see that if they made the same hard effort to quit rather than defend their addiction they'd be much better off.
likewise smoker's say that alocohol is bad you as well, but don't see that it does not do anyone any physical harm sitting next to a drinker, wheras passive smoking causes all sorts of diseases.
it also surprises me that smokers don't see that there is no safe level of cigarette tobacco consumption irrespective of how many cigarettes someone smokes and that half of all long-time tobacco users die painfully and prematurely, wheras there is a safe level of alcohol consumption, yet they must compare lethal tobacco addiction to moderate alcohol consumption.
5
You've obviously been spared all those alcohol-related prolems, Lil. Which affect others much more than 'passive smoking'.Like wife-beating, alcoholism leading to homelessness, getting pregnant or contracting AIDs while under the influence, being run down by a drunken driver, etc. etc. etc. (ad nauseum)
But I do rather question your 'half of ..'
6
it always surprises me that smokers cannot accept an argument against smoking and then claim problems such as alcohol and obesity are worse but then are not prepared to do anything about them.it always surprises me that smokers cannot accept an argument against smoking and the claim problems such as alcohol and obesity are worse, when in actual fact they use such arguments to distract from their own unability to lead a life without nictotine addiction.
it always surprises me that the negative effects of alcohol abuse are mentioned as if they were the rule and what always happens when drinking alcohol, when in actual fact these incidences are the exceptions from the many people that consume alcohol.
with tobacco consumption though there is no safe level at all - each and every cigarette brings cancer closer - however that is not the case with moderate consumption with alcohol, which makes such a comparison appear absolutely ridiculous.
7
There's something wrong with everything, if that's what yer lookin' for?I see threads on here, asking if its too hot to bother going to Spain.
I may die from smoking cigarettes. But ya gotta die of somethin'!
Better than dying of bordom. Or sanctimony.
(but its like when I drove a taxi. I'd raise Hell with another driver for a stupid move.
Twelve minutes later...I['d catch myself doin' the same thing he did.
8=(
8
it always surprises me that smokers say you have to die anyway, when 50 per cent of smokers die of their addiction prematurely and painfully. i wonder if one has to die this way.it always surprises me that smokers say that it is better than dieing of boredom, as if smoking was exciting and non-smokers live a boring life.
it always surprises me that smokers come up with exceptional examples such as this and that person smoked two packets a day for 70 years and lived up to 87 years or so, when such a case is clearly an exception from the rule and only known because it is such an unusual exception.
it is the same as falling off a tower block and not get injured. that does not make falling off a tower block safe.
i always surprises me that smokers keep deluding themselves and come up with poor arguments just to defend their lethal addiction.
10
Nearly everyday in the papers there are reports of the people blaming the govt (understandable) for horrible traffic congestion, jams etc. But when a road has to be widened and trees are at risk, these people, who don't want the trees to be felled, and who want (presumably) better traffic flow, will spoil the trees with banners "Don't cut me down!"11
I used to work with a guy who smoked and I would always tell him to quit. Because the manager also smoked, the smokers were allowed to take frequent smoking breaks which was especially annoying.This guy would go smoke with a guy who ran a watch stand next door to our store and defended smoking with the excuse that it was a way to make friends. One day I said, "Great, you two can have chemo together one day." Like most smokers, he was in denial of the health risks of smoking so he didn't take it so well.
12
Since you're so easily surprised, Lil, would it surprise you to hear I'm NOT a smoker? At least, not currently.I have been, from time to time. And what generally drives me back is listening to all the smug and sanctimonious ex-smokers patting themselves and each other on the back because they've managed to kick the habit.
There's cancer in my family. We have a habit of dying young from it. My younger brother has just had a tuour larger than a football removed fro his stomach. So far, I've outlived my non-smoking mother and grandfather by more than 25 years each. Last year I walked up two mountains, stopping for a cigarette or two on the way.
Many years ago a link was established between smoking and cancer. After a time they had to find some reason to all the people who died of lung cancer without ever having smoked a cigarette, so they came up with 'passive smoking'. Now, true to form, they're having to find another reason why people die, so this week they've released a statement that 'being a couch potato' is as dangerous as smoking. What next?
AFAIK there are two major causes of death. The second one is fear - which killls you early; the major one is birth - it's 100% fatal; everyone who has ever been born will die.Want to live forever? Don't get born is my advice.
