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New Visa Waiver Requirements, effective January 12, 2009

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Vallarta

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Feb 1, 2012 4:19 PM
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Hi there,not sure what u mean regarding a bank account!? All I know is in Oder to fill up the esta application in the and of the questioner is asking you to pay the fee of 14 dollars! That's all !! I think u may need a credit card,if that's what you were referring to it the web is safe a millions people uses everyday! Now just make sure to get the esta questioner under the immigration page.

nutraxfornerves

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Feb 1, 2012 4:27 PM
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If you have ever been denied a visa, you cannot use the Visa Waiver Program to enter the US. Period. So, forget ESTA. It is not a program that allows you to enter the US; it is a pre-clearance that verifies that you appear to be eligible ot enter under the Visa Waiver Program. You are no longer eligible. You must get a B2 visa.

To get the B2 visa, you must prove that you have such strong ties to the UK that you intend to return. That can include all sorts of things. A job to return to. A house you own or a rental agreement. Admission to a university. Having a bank account. Ties to friends and family.

I have put it this way before: Suppose you tell your mother that you are planning to go to the US and she starts sobbing that she is sure you will stay and you will never see her again. You know that she has a strong bullshit detector, so you have to come up with proof that you will return that she will believe.

Now, imagine providing the same proof to a consular official.

You can re-apply for the B2 visa anytime, after you think you have gotten suffciient proof that you want to return to the UK.

Vallarta

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Feb 1, 2012 6:19 PM
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Hi Natraxfornerves,

Just want to make sure I got this straight,so since u got refused a b2 visa u can forget your esta for ever,the only option left is to apply again for the b2 and try to get as much proof as possible to fix the status, wich it will change from been denied to approval,then a next trip u can probily apply just for the esta,which the esta is not a visa you can still been deported at airport in the USA. So when u been denied a b2 visa it's kind permanent effecting negativily for the esta approval as long you don t fix your status dealing with b2 visitor visa approval.

I hope I got this straight !!!

Thank you for your time.

bzookaj

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Feb 1, 2012 6:25 PM
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then a next trip u can probily apply just for the esta
The ESTA is part of the VWP.
Since you cannot use the Visa Waiver Program, there is no need to use the ESTA. The ESTA will not help for the visa, nor is it needed for the visa.

Once you are denied a visa, you can never use the VWP. That means no more ESTA.

Vallarta

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Feb 2, 2012 8:14 AM
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Thank you guys,it was very helpful !!

I'm gone try one more time for the b2 visa hopefully this time is not going to be denied again!!

sweens11

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Feb 19, 2012 7:26 AM
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Hey did you get the visa the second time? and has anyone actually got into the US after being denied a B2 visa on the waiver 3 month visa?

bzookaj

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Feb 19, 2012 10:39 AM
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waiver 3 month visa
The waiver is not a visa. It's a visa waiver, i.e. it waives the requirement for a visa.

has anyone actually got into the US after being denied a B2 visa
The ESTA automatically denies any entrant who has previously been denied a visa. You cannot arrive by air or sea without an approved ESTA.

dannygoodwinphoto

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Apr 8, 2012 3:39 AM
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Hello all,

I am flying into Seattle April 25, staying with a friend before taking a trip up to Vancouver, Canada by car over land border from May 5-May 6. I will driving back to the states on May 6 and flying out from Seattle on May 7.

I have been approved for a Visa Waiver (I am British, but flying from East Timor, arriving in Seattle from Seoul) however, will my Visa Waiver see me through to Canada and back to the States without any problems? I am not entirely confident the info I have found is up to date and correct. Anybody certain that this is acceptable on a visa waiver? Apologises, this is my first trip to North America.

aubo23

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Apr 8, 2012 3:59 AM
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That is entirely within the rules for the visa waiver - as long as you already have your ticket out from Seattle on May 7

bzookaj

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Apr 8, 2012 5:42 AM
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Although time in Canada is included in your 90 days, your trip is much less than 90 days. You should be fine*.

*Usual caveat: All entry is at the discretion of the official you receive.

dannygoodwinphoto

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Apr 8, 2012 6:50 AM
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Thanks aubo23 & bzookaj. I do have my ticket out of Seattle already booked. I feel confident I am going to be okay.

I will stay not stray off topic, but if anybody knows of any romantic date ideas to do in Vancouver. It would be greatly appreciated if you were to get in contact with me through a personal message (:

Thanks again for response.

anntham

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Apr 30, 2012 2:09 PM
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Hello
Help and advice would be appreciated.
My partner has previously travelled to the US under the visa waiver scheme over 5 years ago. However, he has an old conviction from over 20 years ago which I believe he should have declared at the time.
We are planning a trip to the USA and have begun the process of applying for a visa as we now realise this is what he should have previously done. However, I am worried that he will be denied due to previous entry without declaring conviction.

Can anyone give any advice / information about this please?

Thanks in anticipation.

aubo23

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May 2, 2012 1:35 AM
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I don't know whether that is sufficient grounds to refuse a visa (probably yes) and whether such refusal would be automatic or discretional - I suspect the latter. You won't find out for certain ahead of time so you'll have to continue to be worried I'm afraid.

The 20 year old conviction almost certainly doesn't matter.

anntham

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May 2, 2012 2:13 PM
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As I suspected unfortunately, so best to try for the visa before booking anything.

Thanks for your reply

Pirate_at_50

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May 11, 2012 7:43 AM
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I could dig thru all the 256 posts, but... How much IS it for the ESTA today? Ain't on any of their stuff.
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