4 weeks in the region
Replies: 16 - Last Post: Mar 23, 2013 2:57 PM Last Post By: TheSwede
Apr 26, 2012 12:27 PM
4 weeks in the regionI have a little more than 4 weeks to go to East Timor. I will fly from Bangkok via Denpasar to Dili, or direct to Dili from Bangkok. I might have to enter Indonesia more than once. As a Swedish citizen it seems i can get VOA in Indonesia for 30 days (the rules at the moment). Is Indonesia like East Timor, that I have to fly in to the country to be able to get VOA? For example, going overland East Timor-Indonesia requires visa in advance to Indonesia?
My preliminary plan. Fly to Bali. To enter and stay maybe a day or two I will use VOA. Fly to Dili use VOA. Go back to Lombok or Bali overland. Want to see Komodo. When I enter Indonesia again, I might need a visa. Can I chose to get a VISA for Indonesia at home and use it for my second entry? I know it sounds stupid :-)
Apr 26, 2012 12:41 PM
1For info on the overland border crossing, check out the following report (August, 2011). You can get a 60-day visa for Indonesia at the embassy in Dili (9). I don't think they will give you a VOA in Bali, if you have already got a visa in your passport.
Apr 26, 2012 1:39 PM
Apr 26, 2012 8:50 PM
3I did something similar in Nov 2011. Flew into Denpasar, got stung for the VOA even though flying hours later to Dili. Oh well. Getting your VOA in Dili is no problem.
However. Despite what the link says, getting a 60 day visa whilst in Dili is no easy feat. Sure, they tell you to write a letter etc & we specifically stated several times that we needed a 60 day visa & pleaded with the visa handler at the embassy but to no avail. Also, we required proof of onward travel.
I guess it really depends on your luck on the day & how generous they feel. When I tried, they insisted they were no longer issuing 60 day visas. Even if you don't get a 60 day visa, it is simple enough to get your visa extended whilst in Indonesia.
Furthermore, if you wish to travel overland via Komodo, here's a link to a boat trip which does it all pretty cheap & includes different activities etc
Apr 27, 2012 6:21 AM
4We stayed at East Timor Backpackers and they had an example standard letter people could copy out and give to the Indonesian embassy when applying for a visa in Dili. I didn't go to the embassy, but heard numerous stories about how arbitrary their decision-making was. You have to get there really early to stand a chance of being seen, as they may just decide to close and tell everyone waiting to come back another day. Also make sure you are polite to them as otherwise you'll not only jeopardise your own visa, but also the visas of everyone else after you in the queue!
Apr 27, 2012 11:17 AM
5So what you guys are saying is that to cross the border into Indonesia from East TImor I need to have a visa in my passport already? No visa on arrival into Indonesia when crossing land border?
Apr 27, 2012 3:20 PM
6Yes, you do need a visa in your passport.
Have a look at this blog entry:
Apr 28, 2012 4:32 AM
7When you get to Timor go and apply for you Visa for Indonesia so you have plenty of time if there are any dramas. I do not agree exactly with the comments above just fill in the form correctly and you will have no issues. You MUST have a visa in your passport to enter Indonesia via Land.
Apr 29, 2012 2:42 AM
8There's no VOA for land border crossings (just for arrivals by plane). So you'll have to get a visa in Dili, which shouldn't be difficult.
You may want to consider flying to Timor-Leste via (Singapore and) Darwin with Jetstar. You wouldn't have the problem of having to enter Indo twice and could arrive at the land border crossing with a 60-day Indonesian visa from the embassy at home. Bangkok - Darwin one way is about 180 euros, depending on the date, of course (I've just checked it out), and there are reasonably-priced Airnorth flights from Darwin to Dili.
For info on your onward journey in Indo, see Beang. From Kupang, you can go to Kalabahi by ferry or plane. Also find the Airnorth link there.
Finally, you can fly out from Bali, or, probably more cheaply, from Jakarta.
Apr 29, 2012 3:05 PM
May 1, 2012 3:48 AM
May 1, 2012 1:12 PM
11cflamboyant, I already booked Bangkok today with Quatar airways. Paid 900 US$. Satisfied with that. Thanks for your interest in answering my questions. Will continue to plan and book the rest of the flights shortly.
I like to change the subject of this thread from questions about visas to ramadan. In the early 90's I was travelling through Sumatra, Java and Bali during ramadan. I honestly didnt notice much of it. I know there are other threads about this topic here, but I ask anyway to get some recent info. I will travel between Bali and the island of Timor eastwards or westwards, Hopefully I will spend most of my time in East Timor as this is the main goal fro my trip. East Timor is catholic so I can understand that the country is not affected by this. But travelling overland on muslim islands, will it be hard cause of many people travelling during this time? I will be in the region during the month of August. What I nkow is that people travel the most right after ramadan, so that would mean the last weeks in August for 2012.
May 1, 2012 3:53 PM
12I am back at square one in my thoughts again. Flying Bangkok-Denpasar-Dili, without leaving the airport in Bali (i.e transfer). First AirAsia Bangkok-Bali and then Batavia Air toDili from Denpasar. If this is a transit, will I have to pay for the VOA in Bali? My destination is East Timor not Indonesia.
May 1, 2012 8:02 PM
13It doesn't matter. You will be charged for a 30 day visa like every other foreigner who steps off the plane. There are websites which claim you can get a transit visa but when I passed through Denpasar en route to Dili in Nov 2011 I was charged.
Having this VOA will not affect your prospects of getting another visa in Dili for going overland into Indonesia, they will probably just query it.
May 2, 2012 2:16 AM
14We travelled through Indonesia to Timor Leste during Ramadan last year. We encountered no major problems except for during Eid itself. We wanted to take a boat trip from Lombok to Komodo, but there were none available as they were running a reduced service over the Eid period. We ended up in Sumbawa Besar for Eid, where the celebrations were quite fun. However, very few shops or market stalls were open, so it was hard to find food. We managed, it just took a bit longer than usual.
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