Everest Base Camp without going to Kukla
Replies: 31 - Last Post: May 1, 2012 10:17 AM Last Post By: scoodly
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I would reiterate what I mentioned in 12 above...the views of Ama Dablam, sustained direct views as you contour along from Dhugla to Dingboche staying high above Periche are to me some of the best in Khumbu and of what is often considered one of the most beautiful mtn in the area. So if the weather permits I would opt for that routing. You will see the general layout/routing and views on the way up and will be better able to decide what you want to do coming down and the quicker times coming down. Enjoy.Roger
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Dulkha to Dingpoche trail Roger_Ray mentions is the same trail you would walk up when going from Dingpoche to Lobuche. The route goes along a genly sloping pasture towards Dhugla, while Periche stays about 100m lower behind a sharp embankment to the west. If you walk down the same way it is a nice downhill with Ama Dablam looming in the south.I usually stay in DIngpoche on the way up, but Periche on the way down to save time (maybe 1.5 hours total...) Usually I have arrived Pericehe quite late, 5 or 6 PM, as my normal itinerary is Gorak Shep - EBC - Pericehe. Taking the higher pasture trail to Dingpoche on the way down also is of course just fine, just some time "lost", but better views, of course.
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At last it looks like this...In case there are more suggestions I better start a new thread...DAY 1: Lukla to Jorsale (Is it doable at a moderate pace or should I change it to Monjo)
Day 2: Jorsale/Monjo – Namche Bazaar
Day 3: Acclimatization day (Thame. Any other suggestions)
Day 4: Namche Bazaar to Mong La
DAY 5: Mong La to Pangpoche (via Phortse high trail to Pangpoche, best trail in Khumbu- Phortse
Thenga, Phortse)
DAY 6: Pangpoche to Dingpoche (Tsuro)
DAY 7: Acclimatization day (acclimatization hikes to Chhukhung valley)
DAY 8: Dingpoche to Lobuche (Dusa, Duglha, Lobuche)
DAY 9: Lobuche to Gorak Shep to the Kala Patthar summit
DAY 10: Gorak Shep to Everest Base Camp
DAY 11: Gorak Shep to Pheriche (Duglha, Phulaji Kala)
DAY 12: Pheriche to Namche Bazaar
DAY 13: Namche Bazaar to Lukla
Questions
- Is TIMS mandatory? Where can it be acquired in KTM
- Is USD 15 per day B/B a reasonable budget post Lukla
- Are there any specific shops selling misc. ‘original’ equipments e.g. walking poles, Nalgene, harness, carabineers (for later use)
- Is there a possibility of staying with one of the climbing groups at EBC for a day? I intend to climb Everest someday and would like to get a feel of things ). Can I maybe pay a group to let me stay
- Is it possible to get an open ticket from Lukla in case your return is delayed
Let me know...Thanks a lot for your help...
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HiTIMS is mandatory, costs $20 for an independent trekker and is available in KTM, more details on the TIMS website.
As one gets higher on the trail prices for food and accommodation increase and $15 per day might mean a frugal diet but is possible. However, I would budget for more, say $20 - $25 for a varied diet and an occasional spirit lifter such as beer and chocolate.
Original equipment is available in KTM and Namche. In KTM there are TNF, MHW and Salewa stores on Tridevi Marg in Thamel (similar prices to the UK High St) but there are other shops selling a mix of genuine gear, stuff they have manufactured and copies. A good palce to start is Shona's on Jayatha (as you walk into Thamel along Tridevi Marg take the 1st left and Shona's is about 100m on the right). They sell genuine Nalgene and climbing kit and Leki copies at 700 rupees (IIRC) a pair. It's a fixed price shop.
It might be possible to stay with a climbing group but unlikely. They are busy and want to avoid infections from other people.
For the Lukla ticket I suggest booking a return date and changing it if necessary when you get to Namche and know the exact date you want to fly - there is no charge for changing dates. In case of backlogs, people with a dated ticket have priority over open tickets - at least that's my understanding.
Enjoy the trek.
scoodly
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Re day 10: I have found that Gorak Shep - EBC - Periche (or Dingpoche) can be done fairly easily, depending on how early you leave for EBC and how long you want to stay there. I have done this twice, staying in EBC for about 3 hours both times, we arrived at Periche around 18:00.If you want to stay longer in EBC, then on day 11 you can easily reach Tengpoche, even Namche if you put in a bit longer day.
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Hi RJSAMBy going in the first week of May you will avoid the worst of the spring traffic - the route choices available on the (more or less) straight up and down trek should not make much difference to the number of trekkers you will see.
The itinerary looks OK; I too would go via Pheriche on the way up (I like it because it's first valley that is ice and rock and there is the opportunity to attend the daily(?) altitude lecture (it's only a few days a week at Dingboche) and as Roger says, the subtly changing views of Ama Dablam coming down the high route will be worth it.
I'm with Petrus on the return; you have time to go further than return to Gorak shep on day 10 - Lobuche at least.
scoodly
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Scoodly, Petrus..Thanks so much for your inputs...Will revise my route plan as per your suggestions...About Day 10 it would depend on my trek mate (as n when i find one...) else I will just scorch it as u suggest...
Thanks for all the help..Much appreciated....
I really want to check out how different is trekking in Nepal to that in India...There has to be a reason why LP Trekking In India says, " Trekking in India is like wht it used to be Nepal in early 70's and 80s"
PS: Does any one even remember the orginal query on this thread :)
Keep The Faith....
Now that you have confirmed that the flight sechedule can be moved around for free it will make things much easier....
Edited by: RJSAM
Edited by: RJSAM
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Petrus, Scoodly, Roger....Help Needed Yet Again....I have managed to find a trekmate but he would like to include Gokyo into the route. My queries
- I understand its doable over Cho La Pass?? Is it doable with the same amount of preparation (in terms of clothing, equipment etc.)
-Is there a way I can modify the above mentioned schedule to make it 13-14 days from Lukla with the changed plan or will that be a rush? (I would combine Day 11+12 as you have suggested earlier to accommodate the additional days) Will this help in any way..
- Most importantly ..am I spending more then required time on planning :) ....
