Train from Kunming to Dali hard sleeper? How rough is this trip? Train tips
Replies: 14 - Last Post: Apr 27, 2012 9:45 PM Last Post By: chrisj
Apr 22, 2012 12:52 PM
Apr 22, 2012 4:32 PM
1Generally I like upper berth because everyone sits on the lower berth during the day. But the Kunming - Dali train travels at night, so that's not much a factor. If you're older, you might want to avoid a climb and take the lower berth.
Apr 22, 2012 4:56 PM
Apr 22, 2012 9:51 PM
3Kunming to Dali is a trip I'd do in the daytime by express intercity bus (only 4 hrs). And the same from Dali to Lijiang due to flexibility and more departures than the train. I've taken the Kunming-Lijiang overnight train (doesn't stop in Dali) and didn't like the train product and quality at all--probably the worst sleeper I've ever taken in China. Unusually claustrophobic due to the narrower compartments, closeness of opposing berths per compartment, and the double-decker train configuration which puts only 4 berths per hard sleeper (2 upper, 2 lower) but low ceiling and no storage space. If you decide to do this and skip Dali on the way north, go for soft sleeper.
For the normal hard sleeper carriages, I like the middle berth. Kunming-Dali overnight service may be a different product than Kunming-Lijiang.
Apr 22, 2012 9:56 PM
4The scenery between Kunming & Dali is quite pretty & the terrain quite hilly, with the road & rail tracks twisting & turning a lot. Another vote for the bus.
Apr 22, 2012 10:40 PM
5Thanks everyone The issue is that if I take the bus during the day vs the night train it puts me in Kunming for the night since I am not sure there is a night bus from Kunming to Dali? I don't like the idea of a bunk mate however on the train being so close? Is there little space between the berths?
Apr 22, 2012 10:59 PM
Apr 23, 2012 2:00 AM
Apr 23, 2012 9:00 AM
Apr 23, 2012 9:06 AM
Apr 23, 2012 9:08 AM
10On the Kunming-Lijiang double-decker train service, in hard sleeper the distance between your berth to your opposite bunkie is about 60 cm, which is narrower than on a standard Chinese hard sleeper compartment. The bunks themselves are slightly narrower also. It's a 4-person compartment with lower ceilings and no storage space except under one lower berth. I'm not sure what the current Kunming-Dali train product is.
Normally I don't have a problem with standard Chinese hard sleeper 6-person compartments.
Sconney, from where are you arriving in Kunming and why is staying overnight an issue? Budget?
Apr 23, 2012 4:49 PM
11Time? I only have 14 days and trying to maximize the time restraints. The budget is not a big issue. The goal is to go from Guilin to Lieging (Expensive flight) so I figured why not explore Dali as well and the town of Shaxi to the North. Do you know anyting about Shaxi?
Apr 24, 2012 10:38 AM
Apr 27, 2012 3:18 PM
13When did the Kunming-Lijiang train line open?
But yes, overnight trains in China I have always enjoyed. Reasonably privet, comfy beds, rocked to sleep by the tracks rhythm
Apr 27, 2012 9:45 PM
14When did the Kunming-Lijiang train line open?
December 2009, 1 service daily
January 2010, 3 services daily
Took me by surprise too. Even the access by road Kunming to Xiguan, was on & off for years.
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