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travelinhobo

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Apr 20, 2012 12:30 PM
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Overstaying tourist visa - fine amount?

Does anyone know the fine for overstaying the 180 day tourist visa stay for an American? Is it a flat fee (which I believe) or per day fee (as a French woman told me)?

When I lived here in the past, I overstayed by 2 months. The day I flew out, the ticket counter of the airline told me that because it was 6am, the immigration office wasn't open yet, so I couldn't pay the fine. I had done research and found that the fee was $50US. But since I didn't have to pay it, don't know if that was correct. I'll leave in December and am deciding if I want to do an expensive border run soon, or pay the fee at the airport when I leave. Flying out will be the only way I can go (heading to Asia). Any worthwhile info is appreciated. Also, if anyone has had this situation recently, does the IMS office at the airport still open at 8am? What time does it close? Thanks!

bajadude

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Apr 20, 2012 12:43 PM
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I have been in 3 different airports in Mexico ( Merida, Mexico City and Puerto Vallarta), as you enter immigration there was a sign at each one stating if you lost,misplaced or do not have your FMM a fee of $45.00 USD ( Basically double the cost of an FMM ) would be charged before departure......

miguelito_garcia

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Apr 20, 2012 1:55 PM
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bajadude is correct for a lost or misplaced FMM tourismo.

If, however, IMN is able to determine you have overstayed from perhaps a stamp in your passport or other information, you are potentially liable for a per-day fine. A year and a half ago, my local IMN office was quoting a fine of $ 70 MXN/day.

Buena suerte.

travelinhobo

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Apr 20, 2012 3:53 PM
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My French friend who ever stayed by 2 months was charged $4000 pesos (close to $400US). She's European, but I think that's a crazy price, unless it's different for Europeans or it is a per day price. I see that my passport is actually stamped (date very clear). They haven't done that before, but I usually enter via land.

Queretaro

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Apr 20, 2012 4:47 PM
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Agree with all the above. 70 MXN a day and a 2 month overstay equates to around 4000 MXN fine so all the above information seems consistent!

stewbear

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Apr 21, 2012 8:40 AM
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For about $30 US you can get permanent resident status avoiding such problems.

greenmaasacres

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Apr 21, 2012 9:08 AM
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Stewbear, where can you get permanent resident status for $30.00 and exactly what is it called?
You deal with a different INM than I do for sure.

RichTX1

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Apr 21, 2012 1:03 PM
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Um, Bill (aka "LW")... what I said yesterday is perfectly consistent with what I was have said about this kind of thing for the last twelve years.

I wrote about my own experiences as an "illegal alien" (I prefer "mojado reverso") back in 2006 before the regulations were substantially reformed in 2008 making it even easier to rectify the situation: even then, when I was in a similar situation to the original poster's... being undocumented was not a that big a deal as far as the state was concerned , but there were problems (like not being able to open a bank account ... not easily anyway) and potential consequences.

My objection is to the original poster's complaint about the fine, which really is not much, and — while I know free-lance English teachers don't have a lot of spare cash — not something one can complain about without some demand for "special rights"..

stewbear

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Apr 21, 2012 3:01 PM
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It's a FM3 & a dear friend of mine just got one for 300 pesos with proof of enough income to maintain herself . I believe it is now $14,000 income per year. This income requirement can be lowered if you have proof of other substantial assets.

lake_wobegon

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Apr 21, 2012 3:50 PM
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@13, I believe you're transposing "pesos" for "dollars." Here's a link to Rolly Brooks archive site where he lists the costs of visas in the varying categories.

http://www.rollybrook.com/Page%20Directory.htm
(right-side column, near the top)

As has been indicated already, all of this may soon change when the new regulations are published to implement last year's changes to Mexico's immigration law.

LW

stewbear

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Apr 21, 2012 4:17 PM
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Nope That's what my friend paid. She also was told by others it was much higher but all she paid was 300 Pesos.

Queretaro

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Apr 21, 2012 5:29 PM
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Trying to obtain a permanent residency visa because you have already overstayed your FMM is frankly ridiculous! Pay the fine and move on.

RichTX1

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Apr 21, 2012 6:02 PM
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Stewbear, I don't disbelieve you — it sounds like your friend had some special circumstance, or there were other considerations involved. Anyway, given the original poster made her claim that Mexicans are the ones who spend their lives "listening to the countless second hand stories that are rarely true ," it's not in her interest to count on what was "rarely true" (as it it happened one time, but probably won't again) from those gringos she believes are somehow above that.

stewbear

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Apr 21, 2012 6:42 PM
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Just a clarification. I was not advocating that the over stayer apply for FM3. I was only stating that for those that MAY push the 180 day limit consider doing this.
Next year I am planning on spending at least 5 months & possibly longer so intend to apply myself.

greenmaasacres

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Apr 21, 2012 6:48 PM
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@13 Stewbear. I have had an FM3 for 5 years now and last year it was 1294 pesos or so. It goes up a bit each year. Even the first year I got one it was more than 300 pesos; but it has also never cost me 300 Dollars, so not sure what your friend paid for.
It might have cost her 300 Dollars if she paid someone to do it for her perhaps, I have no idea as I deal with it myself, it is not difficult.
Who knows, whatever it is off topic anyway, sorry.
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