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superlufti2000

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Mar 4, 2012 5:01 AM
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bout means bouteille (french. bottle) as far as i can understand his last name. viktor means the one that wins in latin (?). bout can also be a remain from (another) longer name the family carried in earlier times.

according to the transation page of ludwig maximilians universitaet (munich, bavaria) leo.org bout (eng. to ger.) means attack, anger, periode, booze, something that takes a month. bout (french to ger.) means nipple, piece, (or used in a sentence) "the person that brings something to an end", "the one that is exhausted", "at the end of the world", "the one that will bring it not any further" (than where he is) and "the one that saves a the wrong end".

"viktor bout, the lucky one that is exhausted".

bouteille (fr.) means according to leo.org "the simple bottle" (anglo lower german) schnapsflasche ("bottle of cheap wheat whiskey"), pulle (eng. "childrens milkbottle"), siphon, unclear story, "the bottom of a flask" (or bottle).

"viktor bout, the lucky siphon".

superlufti2000 from nuremberg in deutschland

VinnyD

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Mar 4, 2012 5:21 AM
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I just learned that the American military historian Max Boot was born in Moscow. Same name presumably.

zashibis

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Mar 4, 2012 6:21 AM
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bout means bouteille (french. bottle) as far as i can understand his last name.

#45, I going to suggest you learn to read a little more carefully before responding to a thread like this. As the OP makes clear, the man under discussion, Viktor Bout, is Russian, not French, so his name has nothing whatsoever to do with French, German or English meanings of bout.

superlufti2000

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Mar 4, 2012 8:22 AM
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quote "(...) before responding to a thread like this."

hey, this seems to be a thread for special users, right?

the name victor bout (a very known african weapons dealer without ethics) is a criminal wanted by interpol and the FBI. his name has to mean nothing, coverups, nicknames or general use of stage names or pseudonymes (in his entire family bakground) might be seen as normal. bout can come from the times of napoleonic invasion in the early 18th century. there is many german criminals (during the past 50 to 100 years), politicians as well as showstars withfrench last names (without a family binding to france anymore). mostly those were hugenot refugees, lost soldiers (church employees) from past wars or private riflemen.

there is also no person known as barefoot bandit in the usa. "barefoot bandit" is just the name public interest donated him.

quote "(...) so his name has nothing whatsoever to do with french, german or english."

aha!

haeh?

boot means boat in german. bout means bouteille (bottle) in french.

what does zashibis mean?

superlufti2000

zashibis

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Mar 4, 2012 9:08 AM
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there is also no person known as barefoot bandit in the usa. "barefoot bandit" is just the name public interest donated him.

The word you're looking for, superlufti, is nickname. However, that you would imagine that Viktor Anatolevich Bout (Виктор Анатольевич Бут) is a nickname only goes to show how unqualified you are to contribute to this thread. The surname is a common one in Russia, and the origins of the name are explored in the early part of this thread by people who, unlike you, are familiar with Russian and other Slavic languages. There's no suggestion on any Russian genealogical website that the name is derived from French, so your "lost soldier" theory is far beyond far-fetched.

And what the letters b-o-u-t happen to mean in French or any other language is purely coincidental. (And, incidentally, bout doesn't mean what you think it does in French.) Almost every language in the world must have a word or two that sounds like bout/boot/but. Next you'll no doubt be trying to convince us that it must come from the Chinese bùtuǒ ("improper").

In general, "speculation" is one thing; "wild guessing" is another. All too often your contributions fall into the latter category.

NorthAmerican

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Mar 4, 2012 9:59 AM
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Just curious: is Анатольевич the correct spelling of his patronymic? I would have thought it didn't need the soft sign.

superlufti2000

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Mar 4, 2012 10:08 AM
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allright then.

NorthAmerican

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Mar 4, 2012 10:40 AM
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Thanks for the reply, and the link. Live and learn.
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