Havasu falls in 2 days - doable? pls help!
Replies: 9 - Last Post: Feb 15, 2012 6:43 PM Last Post By: GeoinMT
Feb 13, 2012 1:02 PM
Havasu falls in 2 days - doable? pls help!First time road trip in USA this May, and feeling a bit overwhelmed by distances!
We're planning this itinerary (for May);
leave Vegas early morning to South Rim Grand Canyon to take in sunset views etc. Will check in in a lodge there.
next day we drive to Hualapai hilltop (how long is the drive?) and start our hike down to Supai (is it easy to do this without a guide? how long does it take to get there?) stay at the lodge ideally, or campground if lodge is full. take a dip in the pool (or will water be too cold in early May?)
third day we enjoy the surroundings in the morning, then leave either by helicopter or else hike back to hilltop. from there drive back to lodge in south rim.
fourth day leave Grand canyon to drive towards monument valley.
what do you think? is it do-able? I do know that ideally we spend another day exploring the area but we're a bit pressed for time and would really want to make the most of what we have! suggestions are welcome.
Feb 13, 2012 5:59 PM
1It is 10 miles to Supai from the Hilltop. It is much easier if you spring for a half and mule to carry your gear, but not absolutely necessary. This trip is far better in three days. This gives you a day to explore the gorgeous canyon below Mooney Falls. You don't need a guide. It could be very warm in May, so take plenty of water. Monument Valley is one of the most overhyped places in the Southwest IMO. If you cut Monument from your Itinerary you will have another day in Havasu and you won't regret it.
Feb 13, 2012 6:24 PM
2Welcome to the TT...Go direct to the Hilltop from LV...Clean out, lock the car & hike down in the late afternoon...Make advance reservations for the Lodge...Spend the next day in the Canyon ... Hike out early AM 3rd day & on to the South Rim...Where to after that high point visiting M. Vy. ??? carracar
Feb 13, 2012 6:24 PM
3Welcome to the TT...Go direct to the Hilltop from LV...Clean out, lock the car & hike down in the late afternoon...Make advance reservations for the Lodge...Spend the next day in the Canyon ... Hike out early AM 3rd day & on to the South Rim...Where to after that high point visiting M. Vy. ??? carracar
Feb 13, 2012 10:19 PM
4I don't think you have enough time to do everything on your itinerary, and for some things you are a bit late in the game for planning. but, here are some comments on the main elements of your plan:
It is about 4 hours from the South Rim to Hualapai Hilltop. It is 8 miles to the village and about 10 to the campground, for most people this takes most of the day, when you include breaks, photos, etc. The hike itself is nothing special (there are MUCH, MUCH better hikes from the South Rim), the creek and waterfalls are the main show. it will be very, very crowded in May. I'm willing to bet that the campground and lodge are fully booked already, although the Havasupai are not apt to refuse anyone's money.
I agree with #2, if you must do both Havasupai and the South Rim, do Havasupai first, otherwise the backtracking is just crazy. Seriously, look at a map.
You do not have time for Monument Valley with your current itinerary - unless it is worth it to you to drive 3+hours, snap a photo and drive back. I'm not as negative on Monument Valley as some on this forum, I think if you have an itinerary passing by the area, it is well worth a detour or adjusting the route a bit. But it is definitely NOT worthy of driving what amounts to a full day just to take few photos and check it off a list. The drive itself is not especially interesting either.
If you must do both Havasupai and the South Rim, I'd drop Monument Valley, and spend either an extra day at the South Rim, or spend your extra day in Sedona.
If you had to choose between Havasupai and the South Rim, I'd take the South Rim, hands down, no question.
Feb 15, 2012 1:20 AM
5Thanks for your comments.
Re the monument valley part, that's not included in the three days obviously. It's where we're heading off to after the canyon. It's ok to say it's overrated, but you can only say that because you've seen it already ;)
We have tweaked the itinerary so that we'll be arriving in Flagstaff on Thursday evening, then fly in to havasu on fri, stay the whole day sat and hike out on sunday.
After that we have about 4 days to drive around Utah before arriving in salt lake city. Hopefully we'll get to see monument valley.
Feb 15, 2012 1:22 AM
Feb 15, 2012 6:46 AM
7Have you not access to a Arizona map ? If your starting point remains Las Vegas... it makes no sense to drive back 100 miles to the 70 mile drive in to the hilltop trail head (if that's where the helicopter shuttle lands). Again, as your time is limited... Drive the old Rt. 66 from Kingman & go down the first day...Yes, the place as suggested above, will be crowded... After dragging your sorry ass back to the car in day three & a night at the South Rim,drive the 64/160 to 163...Pause a bit at M.VY. Continuing past Mexican Hat stop for the views at Goosenecks State Park. Then drive the spectacular 261 to the 95/191 & Moab. You will pass land forms where M. VY. could be tucked into a insignificant corner... Two days in the Moab area parks & the highway 6 off the I-70 will get you nicely into SLC...Carracar
Feb 15, 2012 8:10 AM
8The issue we have with the grand canyon is that everyone warns of the crowds.
The rim viewpoints and maybe the first couple miles of the Bright Angel trail will be busy, but not yet out of hand like it can be in high summer. The thing about Grand Canyon is that crowds congregate around vehicle-accessible viewpoints and particular points of interest, but if you're willing to walk even a couple hundred yards you get away from 80% of that, more so if you're willing to walk a few miles (especially on one of the non-main tails). It is hard to find true solitude in the middle of the South Rim tourist area, but finding some peace and quiet really is not difficult at all. If you do an overnight trip outside the main cross-canyon corridor, you'll see only a handful of other groups per day even at the height of the hiking season because numbers are permit-controlled.
That said, Havasupai will be a zoo, less so on weekdays than weekends, but still very busy. Weekends in April and May are bonkers, wall-to-wall. The campground will be packed to the gills - if you're lucky they'll be keeping up with outhouses, but if you're not lucky...lets just say I've heard stories. Havasupai is absolutely not where you'd go to beat the crowds at the south rim.
Feb 15, 2012 6:43 PM
9True the rest of us have seen Monument valley, but we have seen lots of other stuff down there, too. Many queries from foreign visitors include an itinerary with Monument Valley and Antelope Canyon. These are beautiful locations , but they are not the only one's and (of course, this is my opinion) Monument is not close to being something I would drive out of my way to see, when there is so much other great stuff in the area. The drive suggested by Carracar takes you through wonderful places, as does the drive through Zion, out the east gate and through Escalante, Boulder, north to Capital Reef and the San Rafael Swell.
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