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MTL

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Feb 14, 2010 5:36 AM
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Skinning and cooking stingray/skate

I wanted to make Malay/Singapore style grilled stingray (stingray with lots for chili and garlic). I bought a nice wing at my local Parisian fishmonger (called 'raie'- so i presume that it's stingray but it might be skate- can't tell the difference).

However, when i came home i discovered that apart from the grey spiky skin on one side of the wing, the other side has tough white membrane-like skin. I spent 20 mins on Google and Youtube trying to figure out how to remove them but i failed miserably. In the end i just cooked the thing (wrapped in alu foil under the broiler) and of course after cooking the skin peels away easily.

What i'd like to know though is- how does one remove this skin? next time i'd like to do it right.

thanks!

tribolite

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Feb 14, 2010 7:03 AM
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In Malaysia,Singapore,Indonesia and Thailand all sting rays and skates are cooked with the skins intact after being cut up into long slices or large bite sized chunks.
Small rays are sometimes grilled or barbecued whole after removing the sting with the tail and the gut contents.
The fish is usually marinated in a paste of liquidized onions,tumeric,chillies,garlic,thick sweet soy sauce,tamarind and some coconut cream before grilling.
They are also popular in hot sour,spicy curries.
The skin is often also eaten as it has a pleasent glutenious texture after cooking or grilling.

VinnyD

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Feb 14, 2010 7:07 AM
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This is one of the reasons why I never believed the story in Jaws about people cutting chunks of skate with a biscuit cutter and selling it as scallops.

MTL

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Feb 14, 2010 8:14 AM
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thanks Nutrax. Somehow these videos did not show up in my search. anyway, in the skate cleaning 101 video, at about 2 mins he pulls of the skin- using something called a 'gripper' and some pliers. Needless to say i don;t have that equipment at hand....

tribolite, are you sure that in Malaysia/Sing they serve it with skin? I don't remember that....

Vinny, i came across the urban legend too but given the stringy texture of ray i think it would be imposisble to pass it off as clams...

nutraxfornerves

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Feb 14, 2010 8:59 AM
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I searched Google videos for clean skate wings

VinnyD

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Feb 14, 2010 9:11 AM
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#4 -- Yes, the texture and the presence of the band of cartilage through the whole wing.

tribolite

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Feb 15, 2010 6:37 AM
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#4.We order grilled/barbecued or curried skates and sting rays dishes in hawker stalls and local resturants quite often as it is a popular fish around these parts and they are always served without the skin being removed.
Removing the skin as shown in the YouTuble video in #3 using the "gripper pliers" seems to be only done for western cooking.

ESP

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Feb 15, 2010 7:48 AM
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i'm not sure how amenable parisian fishmongers are, but i'd get them to do it there - sounds like it might save you some hassle!

MTL

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Feb 15, 2010 2:08 PM
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Hey Tribolite,

Like you i loved stingray when i lived in Sing/Malaysia. So when you order it, is it grilled in a banana leaf with lots of chili sauce? that's what I'm trying to recreate. So are you saying that the skate wing, skin and all, is just covered in chili sauce inside the package?

tribolite

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Feb 15, 2010 11:40 PM
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#10.Yes,the whole marinated slices of skate/sting ray is wrapped up in the banana leaf which imparts a lovely aromatic flavour from the spices/seasoning and banana leaf when grilled over charcoal embers.
Sometimes they just grill them without the banana leaf but also baste the fish while grilling with a bit of vegetable oil mixed with some coconut cream and a pinch of tumeric powder.
This is then served on a plate on top of a fresh cut banana leaf.
A dip made with sweet black soy sauce,finely sliced shallots,a teaspoon of brown palm sugar,a pinch of grilled powdered prawn paste(balacan),a squeeze of lime juice and some diced green Thai birds chillies is served with the cooked fish.
Yummy!:-))

StanInMaryland

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Feb 16, 2010 6:35 AM
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hmmm...now I am thinking next time I go surf fishing and catch a skate I may just keep it instead of tossing it back.

VinnyD

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Feb 16, 2010 7:11 AM
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#12 -- They are trying to rebrand the cownose ray, the most common ray found around here, as the Chesapeake ray, to make it more appealing on menus.

StanInMaryland

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Feb 16, 2010 7:31 AM
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Vinny,

Hard to believe that people would have a problem with "cownose", isn't it. After all last week while snow bound I saw a show where they ate jellied moose nose.

windtalker

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Feb 16, 2010 8:50 AM
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Nice butt, Stan.

StanInMaryland

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Feb 16, 2010 9:15 AM
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Thanks.
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